Talk:SS Vaderland (1900)

speedy deletion disputed
The vessel was a part of Australian military history and is notable for participating in arguably the most notable event in Australian military history, Gallipoli landings--mrg3105 (comms) ♠ ♥ ♦ ♣ 07:01, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

torpedoed twice?!
Torpedoed in Aegean Sea 2 Sept 1915--mrg3105 (comms) ♠ ♥ ♦ ♣ 09:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Battle categories relevant?
In this article about the ship, HMT Southland, categories about battles do not seem relevant. I have commented out those categories. Please provide a rationale before re-adding them. — Bellhalla (talk) 16:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If it participated in some major battle(s), it ought to be mentioned, since its historic, right? --24.21.148.155 (talk) 00:41, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are right, the battles should be mentioned in the article. But since this ship played no major part in any of the battles, it doesn't warrant inclusion in the battle categories any more than any other ship that participated. Since no one provided any rationale for the battle categories, I've eliminated them. — Bellhalla (talk) 17:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Wreck site??
on 4 June 1917 was torpedoed and sunk by the German submarine U-70 140 miles north west of Tory Island off the Irish coast with the loss of 44 lives. Where exactly is that? Anyone know the coordinates? --24.21.148.155 (talk) 00:41, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The location is 56.16667°N, -12.23333°W. I've added them to the article. — Bellhalla (talk) 17:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

other source, different facts
The guide to the Red Star Line Museum has a page about the Vaderland with a very different launch date than what appears in this article. https://redstarline.be/sites/redstarline/files/180507_RSL_brochure_ENG_binnenwerk_def_HR2.pdf

VADERLAND

On 20 January, 1873 the Vaderland departed on

her maiden voyage from Antwerp, with Captain Theodore vander Heyden at the helm. The ship

was bound for Philadelphia via Falmouth in Great

Britain. The journey was quite difficult. As a result

of the heavy storms in the Atlantic the ship ran

out of coal earlier than expected and was forced

to call at Halifax in Canada for more coal. On 17 February, 1873 the Vaderland finally sailed into 2 the port of Philadelphia.

4                                     6                                     7                                     8                                     9                                     10                                     11                                     12                                     13                                     14                                     15                                     16                                     17 She was the Red Star Line’s first ship and its first steam-powered oil tanker. The oil could be direct- 5

ly pumped into the hermetically sealed compart- ments. Up until then barrels were used for this, or larger free-standing tanks. The ship was easy to recognise: the engine room and chimney were at the back, near the prow.

Following the American ban on the combined transport of oil and passengers the ship ulti- mately only carried passengers and dry cargo. LeeJaffe (talk) 01:13, 7 August 2023 (UTC)