Talk:STV Astrid

DYK nomination
Nominated at Template:Did you know nominations/Astrid (brig). Suggestions for better hooks would be very welcome! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:39, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Post-peer review suggestions
The Peer Review from 15 September has been archived, so these are just a couple of passing suggestions if anyone has the sources:
 * It's mildly confusing that "Structure" begins with explaining Astrid, then jumps to calling the vessel W.U.T.A. and then back to Astrid. Ideally the section would make clear all these details are the vessel as built in 1918, with followup material covering changes from the 1984 or 1999 refits.
 * The last paragraph doesn't belong in the salvage section, which would naturally conclude with announcement that the vessel would be scrapped. is there sufficient material to create a final section detailing both what happened to Astrid (the designer handbags are a nice touch), and what if any legacy the vessel had? Given its history, there must somewhere be testimonials or public comment on its significance in the scrapping.
 * The article doesn't really explain why this vessel was so significant that an Astrid Trust was set up, or why notables such as Princess Anne were involved. It meets WP:N but never states its own case for importance compared with any similar vessel.

Just some passing opinions, and nothing that detracts from this as a good article. Euryalus (talk) 12:01, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Euryalus! Sorry for the belated reply. On your first point: I've simplified the references to the name of the vessel so that we talk about "Astrid" mostly, and note "WUTA" for historical reasons where needed. On your second point: now that we have the incident report, I've added a "Investigation" section that includes the last paragraph from the salvage section along with new content. TBH, I'm not sure what legacy the vessel has, nor am I aware of testimonials or public comments about the significance of its scrapping. On your third point: that's very true, but I don't know what the explanation is. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:00, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Accident report
The MCIB have published their report into the loss of Astrid. Mjroots (talk) 17:02, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed - there's a paragraph about the outcomes in the article. There's plenty of news articles about it that could do with referencing:
 * http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/grounded-astrid-should-not-have-been-at-sea-report-661898.html
 * http://afloat.ie/safety/mcib/item/27844-master-should-not-have-altered-passage-to-facilitate-promotional-activities-%E2%80%93-astrid-sinking-report
 * http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/water-in-the-fuel-system-to-blame-for-astrid-wreck-30985587.html
 * https://uk.news.yahoo.com/happened-today-wednesday-210935689.html#y5OzH6F
 * http://maritimeaccident.org/2015/02/stv-astrid-when-is-a-passenger-vessel-not-a-passenger-vessel/
 * http://www.southernstar.ie/News/Sail-training-ship-Astrid-should-not-have-been-at-sea-13022015.htm
 * http://www.pbo.co.uk/news/stricken-astrid-not-sea-19060
 * The article could do with a bit of reworking to incorporate the information in the report. I hope to get to this soon, but I need to get a few other things done first. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:34, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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