Talk:SZA

Descriptor
The opening sentence descriptor seems to have changed a little over the years but singer and songwriter seem to have consistently been non-hyphenated (2017: singer and songwriter, 2018: singer and songwriter, 2019: singer and songwriter, 2020: singer, rapper and songwriter, 2021: singer and songwriter, 2022: singer. There hasn't been much change in how she has been marketed between her albums, and the usage of "singer-songwriter" (link to Wikipedia article) is inaccurate since she does not provide instrumental accompaniments to any compositions, including the new album. Among her contemporaries, Doja Cat is referred to as a "rapper and singer" despite also taking on vocal and songwriting roles on her last album. Ping major contributors mediafanatic17, FrozenIcicle, Your Power.--NØ 06:26, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 08:29, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @MaranoFan: thank you for inviting me to this discussion. Re. my thoughts, she's been referred to in reliable sources as a singer-songwriter for as long as she's been making music:
 * We have NPR and Line of Best Fit and Consequence in 2014
 * Vibe, Spin, Slate, and HipHopDX in 2016
 * the Financial Times, Vogue, Billboard, the Guardian, the Los Angeles Times, the AV Club, and Vibe and NPR again in 2017
 * Pitchfork and Paste) and many more in 2018...
 * ... I can go on and on with the more recent stuff . Easy to find those sources if you look it up . We don't refer to Doja Cat as a singer-songwriter because a large chunk of RS, upon which we must base all information in our article, out there do not refer to her that way. With SZA, however, that is not the case. And you would be wrong to say someone needs to provide "instrumental accompaniments" (what I assume means they have to play instruments) for someone to be a singer-songwriter; all they need to do is compose melodies and/or lyrics. Going off the sources we have for the making of "Kill Bill", for example, there is reasonable evidence to see she can write melodies and lyrics for her own music. ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍  ‍ 💬 "Will you call me?"
 * @FMSky: I see you have changed almost all of the SZA-related articles such that "American singer-songwriter SZA" becomes "American singer SZA". Pointing you to this previous discussion that established there was strong sourcing enough to keep the former wording; note as well that two SZA-related articles passed FAC with this wording. Please discuss here further if you disagree. ‍ Elias 🪐  (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 12:15, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I mainly made the changes on the basis of her songwriting credits (or lack thereof) from her album pages. She doesnt seem to have written any song on her own and only has co-writing credits. --FMSky (talk) 12:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That's because producers are often credited as songwriters (at times they ask to be credited, even if they've never touched the lyrics). See the case of "Kill Bill" where the two producers are credited as songwriters because they made the instrumental, but SZA wrote the lyrics and melody all on her own . Same thing with "Snooze" (Twitter faux pas, I know, but focus on the interview clips). ‍  Elias 🪐  (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 10:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Drake
She has admitted she dated Drake in 2009 so why is it not on here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 240F:CA:2CE5:1:A88B:5464:726F:12D4 (talk) 07:23, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2024
2603:7000:6407:E200:A034:A7B8:8AA3:5FED (talk) 00:48, 7 February 2024 (UTC) She graduated high school in 2007 not 2008
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Happy Editing-- IAm Chaos  01:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: Marked edit request as answered per above. NotAGenious (talk) 06:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

1989 vs 1990
I noticed that most of the sources out there say or indicate that she was born in 1989, however some of them, particularly AllMusic, says that she was born in 1990. Is there any reason for this? NintendoTTTEfan2005 (talk) 09:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)