Talk:SZA/Archive 1

Untitled
Syntax. Punctuation. (Marlena Holmes (talk) 16:19, 20 October 2015 (UTC))

featured artist
unless i'm missing it, i don't see a reference in the discography/article to her appearance on "9", track 2 of willow (smith)'s ep, "3" (2015). it's credited on that ep's track listing as /willow feat. sza' - definitely needs to be listed here. 63.142.146.194 (talk) 12:59, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 3 September 2017

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The result of the move request was: move (non-admin closure). f e  minist  12:29, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

SZA (singer) → Sza – Does her name stand for anything? It's pronounced "scissa" phonetically, not "S.Z.A." 2601:8C:4001:DCB9:99E2:A3D8:F63D:1A23 (talk) 03:55, 3 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Would support move to "SZA" with the letters capitalised as per how her name is written in articles. As per http://www.complex.com/music/2013/09/who-is-sza/getting-into-making-music her name doesn't stand for anything specifically Guyb123321 (talk) 23:35, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Well we can't do that as SZA is a dab page, and in serious books SZA still means solar zenith angle. If capitalized then (singer) stays. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:04, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Neutral it's not an acronym, but "the singer Sza" seems very rare. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:04, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support - Sza is her stage name, SZA is the stylized version of that, kind of like how Kesha's stylized version was Ke$ha before, but her article has always been called Kesha. --Snowstormer (T &#124; C) 20:47, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support - Per above, and Cupcakke. -- Aleccat  22:29, 12 September 2017 (UTC)


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Requested move 14 September 2017

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The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure) JE98 (talk) 04:29, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Sza → SZA – "SZA" stands for "sovereign", "zig-zag", "Allah" and acronyms are always capitalized for articles, just like how the RZA article is capitalized (who her name is actually inspired by). It should not have been moved to "Sza". Also there are no other articles directly named "SZA", so this time the name of the article should just be "SZA" instead of "SZA (singer)". — Preceding unsigned comment added by AgWoolridge (talk • contribs) 23:17, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Care to give a source on her name meaning those things? Without proper sources, as it stands now, Sza is her stage name, SZA is stylized. --Snowstormer (T &#124; C) 10:51, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It isn't necessary to know what it means, only how it is usually written. Peter James (talk) 21:32, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The disambiguation may still be needed, as there are articles about other things called SZA whether that is the article title or not. Peter James (talk) 21:38, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose, no proof that there is a primary topic for this term. bd2412  T 11:04, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Here is the proof that SZA is an acronym: http://www.complex.com/music/2013/09/who-is-sza/influences --AgWoolridge
 * That's not proof of how SZA (the singer) is the primary topic of the term. — Za  wl  10:35, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Oppose. SZA may be an acronym for the singer but it can't be proved that she is the primary topic. I suggest moving to SZA (singer) instead. — Za  wl  10:35, 22 September 2017 (UTC)


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Follow-up comment: The just-closed discussion might indicate that we should consider a move back to SZA (singer), since we now have an indication that it might be (at least sometimes characterized as) an abbreviation. In a brief look at a few sources, I notice that they generally seem to use the uppercase (and there is a substantial number of such sources that are at least nominally independent and non-promotional). —BarrelProof (talk) 17:31, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 25 September 2017

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Moved as proposed, without opposition. bd2412 T 02:46, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Sza → SZA (singer) – My last request was declined so I now think it should just be changed back to "SZA (singer)". As I said, "SZA" stands for "sovereign", "zig-zag", "Allah" and acronyms are always capitalized for articles, just like how the RZA article is capitalized. Source: http://www.complex.com/music/2013/09/who-is-sza/influences AgWoolridge (talk) 02:21, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support. SZA is an acronym. Sza should redirect to SZA. — Za  wl  08:49, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support as Zawl. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:08, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per nomination, Zawl and In ictu oculi. &mdash;Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 14:34, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support MfortyoneA (talk) 23:00, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support: The sources seem to generally use uppercase, and it seems to be an abbreviation (or at least sometimes described as one). —BarrelProof (talk) 00:55, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support TheMindwalker123 (talk) 05:25, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
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Date of birth
At this writing, the first line of the text says 1989, but the entry under her photo says 1990. Which is correct? Typofixer76 (talk) 00:13, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2018
Hello! I feel that my submission would be value in the "Artistry" tab of SZA's page with the following content:

SZA’s music provides a voice for those that go the endless sexual and sensitive phases of relationships and hooking up. The music in Ctrl differs from her previous EP Z, where there are more EDM beats and the lyrical context is more sporadic in its meanings. Ctrl leads listeners on a soulful journey through the hardships of relationships, sexuality, sex appeal, and being a woman within these partnerships. In the song “Broken Clocks”, this narrative of relationships being a never ending “up and down” cycle emotions is conveyed beautifully, being as told in Bitch Media, “the album’s standout track and musical production gem”. Bitch Media provides a correlation with the artistry that SZA and other young black female artist like Solange have, to that of Janet Jackson in that Janet opened the door for these black female artists to express their “gender, sexuality, and manifestations of Blackness” in ways that she did in 1986. (All from https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/sza-ctrl-review) The vulnerability in SZA’s album Ctrl can relate to many women identifying individuals across the world. Her lyrics touch the heart and minds of many that listen and watch her perform, and there is something to be said about that. In an article from Blog: Los Angeles Review of Books, it is noted that the intimacy of a crowd of “mostly black women and femmes” at a SZA show will blow an attendee away. SZA’s music is relatable to many that identify as “feminist” or stand with feminism due to her portrayal as anything but a “Normal Girl” to use one of her song titles off of the recent album. This notion of a “normal girl” is challenged by SZA singing, “I’ll never be, I’ll never be” and “No fantasy, no fantasy”, meaning that she will never conform to what society deems to be “normal” but that she will be ok “this time next year”. SZA identifies as a black queer woman in her song “Love Galore” when she sings, “Love to my ladies, I’ve dated a few”, and is unapologetic in doing so, as well as her expression of sexual acts. The song “Doves in the Wind” with fellow TDE label-mate, Kendrick Lamar, is essentially an anthem about women being in control of their bodies and what they choose to do with it and who to do it with. (All from https://blog.lareviewofbooks.org/essays/normal-girls-sza-nella-larsen-varieties-black-feminism/) SessionK (talk) 06:49, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as the proposed text is puffery. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 15:35, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Pronunciation of name
To add to article: SZA is pronounced "Sizza." 76.189.141.37 (talk) 00:59, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

a tale of two cities
article lists birthplace as st louis but infobox says DC! which is it? 209.172.23.128 (talk) 02:36, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

ALSO, NOT SURE IF ANYONE CAUGHT THIS BUT THATS SZA AT THE END OF CHILDISH GAMBINO'S "THIS IS AMERICA" VIDEO (SHE'S SITTING ON ONE OF THE CARS AS THE CAMERA PANS OUT). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:243:1500:6FB6:48D3:4DBF:828C:7257 (talk) 03:48, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Title
Is the (Singer) necessary? No other page has the title sza — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dagicle (talk • contribs) 18:43, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2020
Birth year is incorrect. Change birth year from 1990 to 1989. Dashboysixbelow (talk) 17:04, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Born November 8, 1989 Dashboysixbelow (talk) 17:04, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ❌. Both sources listed next to the birth date give 1990. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 22:45, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Real date of birth: 1989. JayOntherun (talk) 23:56, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

DOB
Hi I was patrolling recent edits to pages and found this one. After a lot of edit warring over whether she was born in 1999, 1989 or 1990 I requested Page Protection. I found two reliable sources stating she was born in 1990. However, there are some unreliable sources that state 1989 and her z EP does have '1989' written on the cover. Although this was released years before the articles I have cited. Should we add a disclaimer, add both years or remove the year entirely? I would personally leave as is but wanted to open the forum.

Cheers, AussieWikiDan (talk) 16:19, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

She was born in 1989 she’s said it in an interview before. Stop changing others edits to 1989 because they are correct. You are not. Dashboysixbelow (talk) 17:06, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

I am open to being proven wrong, I am just looking at this objectively. Wikipedia needs reliable citations, especially for biographies of living persons, see WP:BLP. AussieWikiDan (talk) 17:27, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

She was born in 1989. She made a tweet herself claiming she was 24 in May 2014, over six years ago. https://twitter.com/sza/status/470320294117511169

The tweet links to a post on her Tumblr https://web.archive.org/web/20150310000657/https://seeszarun.tumblr.com/post/86519308297/these-photos-span-over-about-the-last-6-years — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raf3020 (talk • contribs) 23:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

When will her date of birth be changed? There’s multiple proof that she was born in 1989. JayOntherun (talk) 01:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Raf3020, thanks for that. The links are a bit ambiguous but it does cast doubt on her birth year. I think maybe the article should state both years. If there is any doubt, it should be clearly stated with biographies of living people. AussieWikiDan (talk) 02:50, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 6 March 2021

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (requesting technical move) (non-admin closure)  ~  Aseleste charge-paritytime 09:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

– Grammy-nominated singer with 3000+ hits per day, would appear to be a clear primary topic. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 15:50, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SZA (singer) → SZA
 * SZA → SZA (disambiguation)
 * Support per page views, and the other entries are generally known by names other than 'SZA'.--Ortizesp (talk) 17:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Nohomersryan (talk) 18:35, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nomination, Ortizesp and Nohomersryan. There are only six entries at the SZA disambiguation page and it is evident that the singer-songwriter has achieved major stardom and has no competition from the other five entries. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - Starzoner (talk) 02:07, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Seems like a no-brainer then. Trillfendi (talk) 19:59, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support im often wary of ascribing long term significance to pop culture topics but in this case it does seem to be primary for SZA. (t · c)  buidhe  20:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. SZA is clearly the most notable of the multiple SZAs. Kim Leung (talk) 2:39, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support SZA is very notable among those SZAs. -- BrandNew Jim Zhang   (talk)  04:27, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

birth year
the wiki page lists SZA as being born in both 1989 and 1990. What's her real birth year‽ 108.49.52.105 (talk) 15:43, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Per Complex, Billboard, and Rolling Stone, SZA was 23 prior to her November 8 birthday in 2013, at which point she would have been 24. That places her birth year in 1989.  General Ization Talk  00:01, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2023
2600:1700:BA0:5B10:E9DC:8903:D544:7721 (talk) 08:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC) Her bff little siter Gaia rain perkins love to gte free tickets frm her show and many other
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