Talk:Saanich, British Columbia/Archive 1

Neighbourhoods
While I like these neighbourhood designations, they do seem arbitrary. I would like to edit this section to reflect the official communities within the municipality, as outlined on the municipal website at http://www.saanich.ca/living/associations.html. Clint Lalonde 18:16, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

I added a few, but it's a bit hard to define a "neighbourhood." My map book lists Lakehill, Glanford, Marigold, Strawberry Vale, Mount Douglas, High Quadra, Cordova Ridge, Interurban, West Saanich Road, Sunnymead, Bear Hill, Prospect Lake, Queenswood, and part of Hillside as regions of Saanich. Apparently I live in Mayfair, but I always thought of it as the Cloverdale area. We haven't covered all areas -- perhaps some of the above are considered communities?24.64.223.203 11:02, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

One Response: - agreed - but would say that Cordova Ridge though is really part of Cordova Bay but not part of Broadmead - don't know if it is a neighbourhood distinct from Cordova Bay if you ask residents on the Ridge or in the rest of the Bay most would just say Cordova Bay. The MLS realty site includes the Ridge in the Bay. Queenswood though is separated from Cadboro Bay and 10 Mile Point in MLS even though it is part of the Cadboro Bay Residents Association area and looks quite similar to 10 mile point in appearance. I think Marigold is distinctive enough from its neighbours to have its own description. Cloverdale I'd say and other Victorians would say is the commercial/industrial area to the north of the Mayfair mall. The Mayfair area I'd say is the residential area to the east of Mayfair and east of Blanshard St. You also should have a look at Maplewood - it definitely is distinctive relative to surrounding area. An interesting older area (I recall there is an unusual "star" shaped intersection somewhere there) bisected by Maplewood Dr. starting south Ceder Hill X Road I think. Perhaps someone from that area could do a write up?


 * I think we should use the neighbourhoods listed in the Greater Victoria section as a guide. I grew up near Maplewood, and would actually place the area east of Quadra and between North Dairy and Reynolds in the Cedar Hill area.  It is too small to constitute a distinctive neighbourhood. Fishhead64 06:43, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Who was the idiot who changed this section? The descriptions are quite off and whoever wrote the above is directionally challenged. Th earlier version was smaller but much more accurate and was developing into a nice site. Why was it so drastically changed? The area described as Cloverdale is actully most of Maplewood. What the hell is with the description "a middle upper middle class area"???? Lakehill is not filled with post war homes - most are more recent from the 1960's. Sunnymead has a very different look than Broadmead - no trees in Sunnymead so why is it lumped together? Sunnymead is not part of the Broadmead Area Owners Association and was never party of the Broadmead development. Sunnymead is part of Cordova Bay and does not have trees like Broadmead. Why are parts of Glanford decidedly "downscale" - what an insult to the people who live there! Maplewood is a very distinct area - it is quite different from Cloverdale and any realtor will tell you that. Queenswood while similar to Ten Mile Point in appearance is geographically quite different - it is NOT a peninsula.


 * Thanks for the love, anonymous user. Your civility is overwhelming.  Feel free to change it.  As the original note suggested, the definition of what constitutes a neighbourhood is quite fluid, both in terms of boundaries and character. Fishhead64 07:09, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

- i made a few changes to the latest version: agreed with anonymous user about Broadmead/Sunnymead - Sunnymead is better described as a subdivision of Cordova Bay - totally different style/look than Broadmead. i'm following the MLS neighbourhood guide. that's what we realtors use - although agree with Fishhead re: area boundaries fluid. queenswood and 10 mile point are neighbors but they do not have an identical "look" and the history is different - and anonymous is right - queenswood is not a peninsula. arbutus should also be given a mention - is a fairly expensive part of gordon head. gordon head itself is actually considered a more upscale/richer area than many of the other areas described as "upper middle class" like cedar hill, lakehill, mt tolmie. yet only a very few subdivisions like gordon point in gordon head could be described as more than "upper middle class".

in general i'd say Broadmead and Cordova Bay would be entirely upper middle class for sure, a good chunk of gordon head (60%) would be upper middle class esp hilcrest, the rest middle, 10 mile point upper class/upper middle class entirely, mt. tolmie middle (90%) except for the few mountain side homes, cedar hill 95% middle except for the few homes on the golf course which would be upper middle. swan lake is middle class. lakehill and glanford and western non rural suburban areas like marigold are, too, although now your housing prices and household incomes are getting lower.

just my take on it.

jason the realtor


 * Good edits on the neighbourhood section! However, I feel the loss of Mount Douglas, Royal Oak, and West Saanich keenly.  Any particular reason for their omission?  Fishhead64 08:30, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

- agree that West Saanich should be restored but need to distinguish it - is prospect lake a sub area, interurban?? - durance lake or are these areas not populated enough? I don't know - w. saanich could include strawberry vale and marigold.

- Mt. Doug is known as a park/mountain: i wonder if the populated area is simply part of gordon head or blenkinsop valley??

- royal oak seems to be purely a commercial area w of 17 - E of 17 seems to be broadmead entirely maybe a mention is in order.

jason

Infobox
Replaced infobox, removed infoboxneeded tag. Qyd(talk)

00:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

There is incorrect information in the infobox: Saanich has two MLA's: David Cubberley NDP (noted) and Ida Chong Liberal (missed). Saanich has two MP's: Gary Lunn (Conservative) and Denise Savoie (NDP). (unsigned comment from 216.232.220.31 added 23:37, 13 June 2006)
 * Denise Savoie is MP for the Victoria riding, and is listed as such in the Victoria, British Columbia article. This riding covers the south-est corner of Saanich as well, so if you feel Denise Savoie should be added here too, please edit the infobox;
 * MLA for Saanich North and the Islands is Murray Coell and for Saanich South it's David Cubberley. Ida Chong is MLA for the Oak Bay-Gordon Head riding, and that is (correct me if i'm wrong) jut south of Saanich. She is listed as MLA in the Victoria, British Columbia article. - Qyd(talk)14:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Murray Coell's Saanich North riding does not include the Municipality of Saanich! It includes the Township of Sidney and the Municipality of NORTH SAANICH not the Saanich of the article. The Saanich South Riding of David Cubberly includes a good chunk of the northern and western part of Saanich Municipality including the Interurban, Broadmead, Cordova Bay, Royal Oak, Beaver Lake, Glanford, Lakehill areas. Ida Chong's Oak Bay Gordon Head riding includes all of the District of Oak Bay and the Southeastern part of the Municipality of Saanich (relating to the article). The neighbourhoods of Cadboro Bay, Cedar Hill, Mt. Tolmie, Gordon Head, UVic and Ten Mile Point are part of the Oak Bay - Gordon riding. Ida Chong's riding does not include any part of the City of Victoria proper.