Talk:Saccharina japonica

Can the topic of......
Kombu be merged with this one.....??? --222.64.215.115 (talk) 04:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, according to Kombu there are about five species which go by that name, so I don't think so. There are links between this article, Kombu, and the other species articles. Kingdon (talk) 00:34, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

There is not a lick of evidence anywhere on the net that I could find that corroborates this argument: "It is used under the natural Brown Seaweed Extract form (Laminaria Japonica) as a radioactive detoxifying agent by a team of Russian Scientists that found this remarkable plant medicine whose properties could grab onto heavy metals and radioactive minerals while protecting the thyroid metabolism and the GI track."

This is pretty significant, since a lot of websites have obviously been using this false information as a basis of calling this seaweed "anti-radioactive." Furthermore, the reference link to this information leads to a product page of questionable origin.

I'm inclined to believe that someone from this "Biofilam" website is basically using Wikipedia as free advertising promote their product and make it seem more authentic. So consumers will be able to say: "Wow, even Wikipedia says its anti-radioactive!" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.9.33.146 (talk) 18:05, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Kombu and Saccharina japonica
I totally don't understand why someone merged the article Kombu into Saccharina japonica. And it seems that they've done it without any discussion before. Please explain it. The word kombu doesn't equal Saccharina japonica, but has a wider difinition, because it was made before modern taxonomy. Kombu includes, not only Saccharina japonica, S. longissima, S. coriacea and so on. It should be divided as before. --Froggieboy (talk) 12:29, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Here are the reasons why you cannot merge Kombu into Saccharina japonica.

1. Kombu isn't identical to Saccharina japonica. It cannot be classified as one species, but some edible spieces among laminariaceae. Kombu includes, not only S. japonica, but also Saccharina angustata, Saccharina longissima, Saccharina coriacea, Arthrothamnus bifidus and Saccharina sculpera. This is not unusual that everyday words don't have strict definition, because they preceded modern scientific taxonomy. Same as "nut", "grape" and the like.

2. Kombu is more or less received in English and much more well-known than Saccharina japonica. The former can be seen in some well-known English dictionaries, such as Oxford Dictionary of English, Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary.

3. User:Azeite merged two articles, at 29th July 2017‎, on his own judgement, without creating a discussion in advance. This is against the rule of merging. --Froggieboy (talk) 14:16, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I assume the motivation for the merge was to get away from using a Japanese name for seaweeds that are also used in Korean (and Chinese) cuisine. I've tried to undo the merge, but this article could probably be expanded with some (not all) of the content in the kombu article. Plantdrew (talk) 19:28, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you! And I'll try to expand the article.--Froggieboy (talk) 08:55, 15 November 2017 (UTC)