Talk:Sadda Haq (TV series)

Conflicting Cast and Characters sections
This article appears to have both a Cast section and a Characters section. Only one is necessary. Please see MOS:TV for more info. The question is now, which list is the best format for this article—Cast or Characters? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:49, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Cyphoidbomb, as your concerns, I agree with you, there should be one section, it is redundant too. I did my best, but Hcns has some other style in mind, he did not care edit warring. I leave it to TheRedPenOfDoom rather breaching I don't like it.Justice007 (talk) 06:39, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Cyphoidbomb and Justice007, I included the characterization section for adding citations to reliable sources for verification. This is the actual reason. If any other ways are there to add citations to reliable sources in this page, please edit I will not interfere ever. Thanks. Hcns (talk) 06:54, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Hcns, now it looks better, I appreciate, no problem. Thanks.Justice007 (talk) 07:04, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks Justice007. Hcns (talk) 07:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Discussion on Plot summary citations
Hi Justice007, I went through recent contributions and saw that you need citations under Plot summary section. Plot summary is extracted from the Official website of the TV show, so it doesn't need any citations. Thanks. Hcns (talk) 18:28, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, where is the page of origin? I don't see anything here. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:33, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Cyphoidbomb Hi, Please, see each titles of the videos uploaded in the Official Website and each episode titles. Hcns (talk) 18:39, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Still confused. We're talking about the series plot summary, not episode titles. Addressing Justice007's point in this edit summary we don't need references for a plot synopsis. We are allowed to use the primary source, the show itself, for that. I have removed the refimprove template. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:47, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Cyphoidbomb. Hcns (talk) 18:53, 10 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, the rule says, Plot-only description of fictional works "The coverage of a fictional work should not be a mere plot summary. A summary should facilitate substantial coverage of the work's real-world development, reception, and significance. This means that an article about a work of fiction or elements from such works should not solely be a summary of the primary and tertiary sources, they should also include real world context from reliable secondary sources. Coverage of fictional topics should provide balanced coverage that includes both plot summary and real-world context." Justice007 (talk) 23:12, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * We're jumping around a bit here. Your original complaint was "Section plot summary needs citation to support that is not original research." This should be easily resolved with the explanation that the plot doesn't need to be referenced if it's just a general explanation of observable content. Nuances like tone, metaphors, themes, etc. should be sourced. The essay you've linked to, firstly isn't a rule, it's an explanation, but it's also not relevant here. The essay describes what a plot summary is, then says that an article shouldn't only be a plot summary. This article is not only a plot summary; there is a lede, there is an infobox that summarizes notable people involved in the making of the series, there is a cast list, there is a referenced production section that may not get into the nuts and bolts of production, but is referenced and provides out-of-universe context. The relevant guideline for the plot summary here would be WP:TVPLOT and I don't see that we're contravening that. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:55, 12 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I have no problems if you think the summary does not require sources. I just know all Wikipedia's articles including its sections required reliable sources, it is very common sense that anyone can add anything that is not true. Even sometimes lead section needs sources. As you mention This should be easily resolved with the explanation that the plot doesn't need to be referenced if it's just a general explanation of observable content. I do not see the content to observe that even support a general explanation. I assume good faith, you too, I leave this to other editors.
 * Thanks.Justice007 (talk) 09:21, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Copyright violation
Hi, Wikipedia didn't copy from https://pranupinky7.wordpress.com/2015/12/25/sadda-haq/. There are various sites like this who copy from wikipedia mainly plot summary. Wiki Users wrote this summary long before. I am a frequent visitor and I don't think so. Thanks. For details please talk with Cyphoidbomb. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.249.138.69 (talk • contribs)
 * - What makes you think I have any details? If you disagree with the flagging and removal of the content, you're free to perform some due diligence, check the article history, check the blog and piece together a narrative that demonstrates convincingly that Wikipedia didn't copy the blog. Not sure why you're dropping it in my lap., since you flagged the content do you have any additional info? Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:30, 21 April 2016 (UTC)