Talk:Sadie L. Adams

Recommendation
The article seems to include a major content gap, namely the dynamics of race in the suffragist movement. Given that the article discusses a suffragist who is also a woman of color, it feels to me as though it would accurate to include the tensions between White and Black suffragists as well as the racism found within the Suffragist movement. Yet, the article does not mention these aspects of the movement, which feels like an informational gap to me. Moreover, given the incredibly segregated nature of Chicago that the article barely mentions how suffragists were divided among racial lines is a significant content gap. I think that the sourcing contributes to this gap–most of the sources are from before 2005 and modern day scholarship is more cognizant of the dynamics of race and racism within the women's rights movement.

Franziwild (talk) 14:14, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey, welcome to Wikipedia. Context is always good and adds depth to understanding. If you have access to reliable, curated sources that discuss the racial situation as it related to Adams, please add the information with proper citations. The beauty of an encyclopedia that anyone can edit is that you can make changes to information based upon paraphrasing sources you have located that others may not have access to and don't have to ask others to make those changes. SusunW (talk) 14:36, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Planned Changes
I am planning on making some changes to this article in the coming weeks. First, I plan on re-writing and re-organizing the section on her career. I plan to organize it by the various efforts that Sadie L. Adams was involved in and therefore make it easier to read and understand. Additionally, I plan to address some content gaps present in this section, there are details about her activism and accomplishments that are missing, as well as context about how race and racism in Chicago affected her work. I plan to fill in more information about her wartime efforts, her role on the BOE (permitted I find more sources), and information that is missing about her charity club efforts. Furthermore, I plan to contribute some context about how Black and White Suffragists interacted. I will also be rewording the legacy section, as right now it reads somewhat strangely. Finally, I will be adding more sources (particularly primary sources) to corroborate what is already in the article and bolster claims about Adam’s notability. See my account for the Bibleography as it won't let me link it here. Franziwild (talk) 13:09, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * primary sourcing for WP does not add to notability. Notability is verified by the use of curated sources (those produced with editorial review) which are able to verify objectively (are independently created without subject input) that the subject has been recognized over time by media or academia. Primary sources may be used sparingly to add additional details. The weight of the article should be based upon secondary sources. That said, you do not need to explain what you are going to do on wikipedia. Just do it, you are totally empowered (though someone else is also totally empowered to reverse or change what you write too). I am quite happy for your interest in Adams and I wish you luck in finding sources. If you need any help, please feel free to ping me here or go to my talk page. SusunW (talk) 13:31, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi SusanW!
 * Thank you so much for your feedback! When I say primary sources–I mean newspaper articles written about Adams at the time by a newspaper known as the Chicago Defender (a highly credible Black owned newspaper) not writings that Adam herself created! I hope that clarifies what I plan to add! Thank you for your help!
 * ˜˜˜ Franziwild (talk) 12:23, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Very cool . Would that the records of the Associated Negro Press and other black papers were more widely available. I have actually pressed the WP-library to try to gain access for editors to the ProQuest collection for years, but so far no luck. For the record, WP would call an interview piece in a newspaper a primary source, but a regular news item about her a secondary source. Very glad you have access. SusunW (talk) 12:56, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! And yes I'm super lucky to have access (one of the benefits of being a college student!). Franziwild (talk) 13:11, 27 April 2022 (UTC)