Talk:Safetran

Page is under development
Since I know a considerable amount of information about the Safetran Systems Corporation in the Rancho Cucamonga, California facility, I will flesh this page out a bit. FredricRice (talk) 19:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * You never did, this page is grossly out of date. Damotclese (talk) 17:46, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Should probably remove this

 * Safetran and Western Cullen Hayes are the top suppliers to Class 1 railroads in the United States. The two companies compete head to head.[citation needed]

That should be removed or perhaps get re-worded. Western Cullen Hayes provides some wayside equipment in the United States however the company is not a significant supplier leave alone "compete head-to-head" with Safetran. Safetran was a part of Invensys Rail and is now part of the Siemens corporation, a much larger and much more significant supplier of railroad infrastructure than Western Cullen Hayes could only hope to achieve.

The text should be removed as non referenced and not neutral point of view. If nobody objects or if someone would like to provide a NPOV revision, let's get it removed or changed. Damotclese (talk) 19:40, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Classifications Updates
There are a number of classifications for stubbiness and such still posted to the page. I see that some effort has been made to expand the page from various editors yet it still remains rather poor in terms of completeness. More of the rail company's history needs to be provided since the company is historic, coming up on 100 years fairly soon. There is still ancient Safetran hardware workingin the Mojave Desert, for example, which have been in the field for many decades. It seems a shame not to cover more history here. Damotclese (talk) 17:45, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Safetran Still Exists
Thank you editor 98.117.246.120 for your update, however Safetran Systems Corp. still exists, it is still a corporation purchased and "branded" first as Invensys Rail North America and now branded as Siemens Rail North America. The corporation is still incorporated. :) Safetran products are still being developed, marketed, and fielded as Safetran products, the Safetran logo is still being applied to Safetran products. Thanks! Damotclese (talk) 16:17, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh, also Safetran remains a Trademark of the Safetran Corporation, renewed 2006. Damotclese (talk) 16:23, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Again, Safetran still exists, the text uses the words "was" and "were" as if the company no longer exists. I'm going to fix that and change the tense from past to pretent. If anyone has any comments about that, please speak up now. As it is, Safetran is still a company, it still provides signaling and other equipment, the fact that Siemens bought Invensys which bought Safetran does not mean that Safetran was killed. Damotclese (talk) 17:49, 5 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I changed the tense from past back to pretsent, added Safetran's latest Long Island Railroad project, and cleared the "defunct" flag. Damotclese (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

An editor added disestablished which I removed. The company does still exist. Just because it was purchased by Siemens after it was purchased by Invensys did not kill the company. Xorail was purchaased by Wabtec, as another example, however Xorail still exists. There are numerous companies under the Siemens umbrella, all of thiwh continues to exist. :) Damotclese (talk) 16:26, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Pinto Blog
It is probably relevant enough that the Pinto Blog should be linked to in the article somewhere. I know that industry blogs are often not relevant to researchers looking at a Wikipedia topic, but the Invensys blog contains a great deal of background and information in to how a company that existed for 96 years was destroyed by incompetence instigated by a corporate raider. SoftwareThing (talk) 18:37, 7 February 2019 (UTC)