Talk:SageMath/Archive 1

Gallery
What's with the "Gallery"? It makes the page very ad-like. I don't think I've seen any other software pages with "galleries". Either the illustration is relevant to the entry or it's not. The gallery seems to be just a parking lot for pretty pictures. --207.203.89.1 (talk) 21:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Will remove. 129.67.19.252 (talk) 14:18, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments on software development

 * The text says: "The lead developer of Sage, William Stein, is a mathematician at the University of Washington who employs students for Sage development." Simon Plouffe once said: "They should hire professionnal programmers and mathematicians at Maple instead of relying on the 'graduate student algorithm' to improve Maple!. For those who do not know what is that algorithm: You put a graduate student in a locked room and you feed that person from time to time by sliding a sandwich in a little trap door, you just wait that the algorithm is done. It is cheap and it works most of the time." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.114.209.87 (talk) 20:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Is this still the current text? This seems no longer relevant.  In any case, this particular algorithm was never used by Sage; anyone who doesn't want to work on it, doesn't.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.102.221 (talk) 01:37, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Acronym
What about the name 'Sage'? I thought it came from Software for Algebra and Geometry Experimentation, (See for example or, however there is no mention of this on the 'about' page at sagemath.org.  Are they trying to drop the meaning and just call it Sage, or is Software for Algebra and Geometry Experimentation a Backronym.  Beamishboy (talk) 23:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It used to be an acronym, but sometime in 2008 it was decided it was no longer an acronym. See for instance, this bug report where the acronym still lingered. The acronym might have begun to be phased out as early as May 2007, as this development email mentions. JackSchmidt (talk) 00:00, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Examples
Should we just use Sage sessions, with the sage: prompt and all, for the examples section?

Proper citations
I put a couple of Self Publish and Original Research tags on this article before I realized that every reference except one seems to come from the project team themselves. Even the Science Daily reference has at its foot "Story Source:The above story is reprinted (with editorial adaptations by ScienceDaily staff) from materials provided by University of Washington."

Are there any independent references to the content or notability of this article? Greenmatter (talk) 19:00, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why it has to be independent. If it's describing features of the software, wouldn't the best sources be the official websites? I mean, for politics, I could understand, but there's nothing claiming it's superior to any other mathematical software, for example. The benchmarks could be biased, but the fact that all the code is there makes it easy to verify.

In terms of neutrality, it seems okay. Please point out any parts that aren't (maybe the design philosophy section could be improved). InverseHypercube (talk) 01:36, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Since there was no response in over a week, I'm removing the tags from the performance section for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InverseHypercube (talk • contribs) 06:15, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

It is obviously not a balanced, independent or even in-depth analysis. It might as well read "Out of millions of possible calculations SAGE developers have found only 11 that are faster in SAGE". This is a very misleading part of the article based on evidence from a biased source. Greenmatter (talk) 14:59, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

It says "faster in some benchmarks". It is indeed faster in these benchmarks. And these are not trivial calculations; they include factorials, integer multiplication, and factorization.

Nonetheless, I changed the wording to decrease its hyperbole. Please tell me what you think! InverseHypercube (talk) 06:54, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Sage Servers

 * http://modular.math.washington.edu:9001/sagenb (list of servers) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enfwm (talk • contribs) 10:04, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Web application
Please link https://cloud.sagemath.com/ this shows the capabilities of sage and lowers the barriers to entry for new users.--Biggerj1 (talk) 15:25, 15 December 2013 (UTC)