Talk:Sage Francis

Autotune
"He is also one of the few rappers who do not use AutoTune to speed up their voice." This seems to imply that most rappers use autotune —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.111.131.235 (talk) 01:40, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Straight edge, vegetarian
No one denies that Sage could be classified as both straight-edge and vegetarian, but it's also not the first thing that writers say about him, nor is it anywhere near the first thing he says when he describes himself. (And you won't ever see Snoop Dogg described as a "boozing, womanizing" hip-hop artist in the first sentence or paragraph of his entry.) Therefore I have moved these facts about Sage to later in the first paragraph.

user: Jjb

>sage, while following the general ideas of the straight-edge lifestyle, doesn't consider himself to be straight-edge. i've seen an interview where someone asked about him being straight-edge and he said that he doesn't do drugs but he doesn't like to be labelled like that. the quote is "you can't be defined by something you don't do". i'm going to take away the straight-edge discription because while he is definitely verbal in his dislike for drugs, he is not part of the straight-edge movement. we might as well put straight-edge as a quality in dakota fanning's entry.

--- Sage's origins as a performing emcee are somewhat rooted in the Straight Edge movement. He's stated in several interviews that he oringially considered himself a straight edge emcee. This is usally followed by him stating that, in retrospect, he's glad that his career didn't take off then, effectively pegging him as a niche artist, among other reasons. There should be some reference to his involvement with the movement in the past.


 * I can't see how he was involved with the 'movement' and sign your comments! XdiabolicalX 12:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Best Known Track
BAAALLLSSSS

Sage's Actual Birthday
I actually did a good bit of research trying to find Sage's actual birthdate. Obviously he refers in multiple songs that he's born in 1968, and another song says "the seventies". But if you read his self-written biographies over the web, the events he references (his first concert, etc.) make it pretty clear he had to be born around 1975 or 1976. Also, there are a couple interviews where the writers refer to his age, and that also lines up with a birthdate around 1976.

So... I'm going to set his birthdate back to "ca. 1976", but I'd definitely not include him on any "19XX births" category listing until we find out for sure. -- User:Jjb


 * An approximate year, when mentioned in the article, is sufficient for categorization (People_by_year#Which_category_to_use).


 * Personally, I have no idea if it's 1968, 1975, 1976, but I just realized D6 used the year on the article's 24h-older-version, so I wouldn't have revert Pyrop's. -- User:Docu


 * Someone's edited the page to say his birthday is September 11 - surely that's rubbish?


 * Not only did this person change the birthday to September 11, they put the year back to 1968. Look, people, Sage is smarter than we are.  In the songs, he is not telling the truth all the time.  Everything that's not a song lyric indicates 1975 or 1976 as the real year, with 1976 being more likely.  Please do not change this or put in a specific birthday, unless you have real, non-lyrical, evidence.  User:Jjb


 * Somebody changed the time makeshift patriot was released too. Its just vandelism. Keep an eye out for it. TimMony 01:03, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

On Sage's site, there's a Bio written on 3 January 2005 that says "Today, at 27" this would mean 1977...Febodyed 03:36, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

His birthday is September 11th, I've read it elsewhere. Erryday I'm 04:34, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I changed the birth date to September 11, with just. I linked the bio at the bottom of the page which is directly linked on SFR's site. It's from an interview with Sage, from Chuck D. I don't know how much more evidence I need. Reverting. -- User:Xira

Did you actually listen to that interview!? He actually says that September 11th is NOT his birthday Febodyed (talk) 18:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Exact date.
A bio of Sage Francis on the Epitaph Records website states he is 27.

Much information in that bio is a few years old now, and thus it only gives an approximate date. He is assuredly not 27 now, in 2006. User: Jjb

When was Makeshift Patriot recorded
A user at 209.248.155.222 changed the recording date of Makeshift Patriot to one day after the 911 attacks from one month after. I found 2 sources on the net that support the original assertion: and so I will change it back. TimMony 02:46, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

an even better source, the back of the makeshift patriot EP also states it was exactly a month after!Febodyed 06:37, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

More on year of birth
The Bio on his website was written in January of 2005. That means he turned 28 that year and 29 this year. So how about 1977 then? Anyone disagree with my logic? I won't edit it to '79 without further agreement. -Wikiwikiwa

Okay, 1977 it is. User:Jjb

Discography
I have added to the discography and it is now, apart from the releases featured section, complete as far as I am aware. I believe all the information about the releases to be correct as I either own, or have spoken to someone that owns all of them. Febodyed 16:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Voice Mail Bomb Threat
Could someone familiar with this artist look at Voice Mail Bomb Threat, normally a red-linked album is prodded for deletion (the band there doesn't have an article), however it needs to be re-written to show Francis' primary involvement. SkierRMH 01:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok.

No, he is not. Febodyed 00:15, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Duplication
Hey, I just noticed the Sage Francis and Aesop Rock have the exact same intro (as of 4/12/07) to their articles...

Sage: "Sage Francis's style blends a varying tone and delivery with subject matter that focuses on intricate sequences of widely varying imagery, metaphors, the occasional pun, absurdism, and pop culture references, while including the occasional touchstones of traditional hip hop storytelling and self-promotion."

Aesop: "Aesop's style blends a varying tone and delivery with lyrics that contain intricate sequences of widely varying imagery, metaphors, puns, absurdism, and pop culture references, while including the occasional touchstones of traditional hip hop storytelling and self-promotion."

Somebody might want to change this...

Oh! Weird! I'll get on that at some point!Febodyed 18:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Man Sage Francis has gotten fat, someone add something to the section about that

Name
Why on earth is the reference for Sage's name link to the Copyright.gov website? I think someone's just inserting random shit and adding random references to make it look legit. I'd change it but I don't know how to screw with references.

Why is there constant confusion and misinformation about his name? His legal name is Paul Francis. His artist name is Sage Francis. He was adopted and went through a name change as a child but without confirmation about that it's clear that we should stick with the names that have been given. Paul "Sage" Francis. Also, where the heck did this Gabrielle thing come from?

When was he adopted? I don't think that's true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.235.27 (talk) 03:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)