Talk:Saint Kitts and Nevis

Smallest country with its own defense force
Hi everyone, am I the only one who noticed that St. Kitss and Nevis is the smallest country (by area) in the world with its own defense force, not supported/protected by any other country or not having defense for at all? For instance, smaller countries below are supported by other countries: - Marshall Islands, by United States - Liechtenstein, no army, only police force - San Marino, by Italy - Tuvalu, no army, only police force. - Nauru, by Australia - Monaco, by France - Vatican city, by Italy

Any articles on this topic?Sorun (talk) 20:17, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Effects of Hurricane Georges
The article currently states: "In late September 1998, Hurricane Georges caused approximately $445 million in damages and limited GDP growth for the year." $445 million in damages to a nation of 40,000 people, and the only effect was "limited GDP growth"? (The article on Economy of Saint Kitts and Nevis describes it as a "sharp slowdown.") Isn't this something of an understatement? Could someone who knows more about the hurricane's effects rephrase and expand this part of the article? --LostLeviathan 04:34, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

It now says : In late September 1998, Hurricane Georges caused approximately $412,104,972.76 .... In my view, this is not "approximately" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.182.220 (talk) 02:18, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Nationality
What is the term for someone from Saint Kitts and Nevis?FreshFruitsRule 14:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The correct is Kittitians ("Kit-tish-an"), or Nevisians("Nee-vee-sion"), so say my friends from both isles and also as corroborated on ( http://www.gov.kn/default.asp?PageIdentifier=59#message )
 * 3rd-paragraph under the header "Message from the St Kitts-Nevis Returning Nationals Association". CaribDigita 20:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Proposed WikiProject
There is now a proposed WikiProject for the Caribbean area, including Saint Kitts and Nevis, at WikiProject Council/Proposals. Interested parties should add their names there so we can determine if there is enough interest to start such a project in earnest. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:03, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone know the act/amendment in 1987-1988 that had officially changed "St. Christopher" to "St. Kitts"?
Does anyone remember the exact act or amendment number that supposedly officially changed the name "St. Christopher" to "St. Kitts" in 1988 I think it was ?

I think this same act or amendment was the instrument that officially changed the country's name from "St. Christopher and Nevis" at the UN[] and the Commonwealth of Nations etc. instead to being listed as "St. Kitts and Nevis". Supposedly it superceded the 1983 constitution of independence. From what I researched so far, the United Nations gives the date of December 28th, 1986 when the official name listed with that organisation was changed from Saint Christopher and Nevis to Saint Kitts and Nevis. CaribDigita 22:08, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Nevis
How is Nevis pronounced, can someone write it in IPA please? :) McCharraigin (talk) 18:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I found out. It said on the separate Nevis page on which I hadn't looked before. McCharraigin (talk) 18:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Hyphenated/Not
I've seen "Saint Kitts and Nevis" and I've seen "Saint Kitts-Nevis"...which is more appropriate, more standard, or more accepted? Elfred (talk) 05:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Etymology
Only one paragraph in this section is actually about etymology. 72.75.86.126 (talk) 09:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

English Convention
Should we go ahead and place a tag on this page? Conventions used here should be preserved I would think... FESmitty77 (talk) 17:59, 8 August 2011 (UTC)


 * That sounds appropriate. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 23:18, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Maps need upgrading
Are the maps for this page the best WP has to offer? You would think that after all of these years WP would by now have a standard set of quality maps for editors to use. The map in the info box is a sorry excuse and is barely discernible, even in full view its no bigger than a penny-candy wrapper. Why did its author even bother? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 08:50, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

About Economic Investment Topic
Hi friends,

Economic Investment is an important topic for the users who visit St. kitts and nevis page. I added topic with ref. link (for the users to get more info). Below is the content and ref. site. Let me know your thoughts on both content and ref. link. You should think on the basis of informative and helpful information b'coz that is for what wiki is here and serving.

Being one of the Caribbean islands, St. Kitts allows foreigners to obtain the status of St. Kitts citizen by means of a government sponsored investment program called Citizenship-by-Investment. Established in 1984, St. Kitts’ citizenship program is the oldest economic citizenship program of this kind in the world. This well regulated, legitimate program has international approval and acceptance.

St. Kitts’ Citizenship-by-Investment program is unique in that it offers a plethora of benefits;

Each candidate must go through several legal steps and should complete certain legal requirements to get qualified for citizenship by investment program

In addition to this, in hopes of expanding tourism, the country hosts its annual St. Kitts Music Festival.


 * Wikipedia is here to be an encyclopaedia, not an advertising platform. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 10:47, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Which type of advertisement you suspect in the post? It is simply ref. link to find more authenticate info. (approved by St. Kitts Government). If you have other source in mind let me know. My purpose is to give related authenticate information to users. --Pure Soul 06:12, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


 * The writing is written in a very promotional way. The bolding shows this clearly. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 10:09, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

I can remove bold fonts not an issue. And which sentence you find promotional and not informative? Mentioned clearly. If you find this information as promotional whole the content is promotional.Removing content is not the way as it prevent users from important topic related to St. kitts and nevis.--Pure Soul 06:31, 19 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niki1984 (talk • contribs)
 * Most of it. You start with the redundancy of it being caribbean, then praise the programme (which you spell the american way in a country that is still a commonwealth realm) calling it old, "legitimate", and internationally accepted. The sentence that the candidate needs to go through legal steps is obvious. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 10:33, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

1) To make everything clear you need to write each and everything need for the process. 2) This is for the English Speaking audience who wants to invest in st. kitts and not for the native. 3) If you find modification in the content send me modified version to go ahead in the direction of solution.--Pure Soul 06:39, 21 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niki1984 (talk • contribs)


 * The process is simply you writing something for an encyclopaedia and not for advertisment. The fact you are writing this for "the English Speaking audience who wants to invest in st. kitts" shows that it is probably information which doesn't belong here at all. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 09:27, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't get your point. I already told you that I don't find any line from the content which looks like advts. And already told you to modify content for the bold terms. With generic word "Advertisement" every time you should not remove content like this.--Pure Soul 07:38, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I've also pointed out some words used which were decidedly unneutral in presentation, and you still haven't convinced me that this is so important to St Kitts and Nevis that it deserves mention. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 10:02, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I already answered all of your queries with explanation. And from the beginning I told you two fundamental things 1) This content is purely informative published by gov. approved company 2) People who visit this page must know about Economic Citizenship (biggest and old programme in the word). Both is enough to make content live.I Wish You a Happy and Prosperous Christmas. --Pure Soul 07:26, 23 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niki1984 (talk • contribs)


 * 1 doesn't justify inclusion, and you haven't explained 2. Why must they know? Chipmunkdavis (talk) 08:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello there. I think that the inclusion of this section on Citizenship by Investment is valid and good. St. Kitts and Nevis is one of only a few countries that offer such a unique program that basically offers very quick citizenship via a cash donation or via an investment in real estate.

However, I would make two changes.

First, as the St. Kitts and Nevis government refers to this official program as the "Citizenship by Investment Program" I feel that entitling this section by that name would be more appropriate. I do not see a need to refer to it as "Economic Citizenship Investment" especially when that is a rather confusing title. Economic citizenship? That doesn't make sense. I think that we can just use the official name of "Citizenship by Investment Program" that the government uses.

Second, I think that the notes (websites linked to) within this section are borderline advertising and surely not the best choice. For starters, the links refer readers to 3rd party companies instead of directly to the government's dedicated and official Citizen by Investment Unit website. Surely the government's own website that describes this program is the best option - and is more thorough and unbiased. As well, these 3rd party companies that ARE linked to are coming across as advertising themselves (promoting themselves) vs. being objective. Bias in this section was already mentioned by another person (see above) and should be examined more closely. Again, it appears as promoting a business vs. being neutral. One of the two companies referenced to sells real estate (Kittitian Hill) and the other is an attorney's office. The real estate office indeed works closely with the St. Kitts and Nevis government when it comes to this program. However, why link to a for-profit real estate company when you could refer people to the government's official website instead? There are MANY real estate companies that work with the government concerning this program. Kittitian Hill comes across as advertising their own real estate development via Wikipedia if we only link to their website vs. to the government site. In fact, the government's website clearly says, "WARNING! Be advised that any advertising concerning the Citizenship by Investment Programme of St Kitts and Nevis is strictly prohibited. Developers and Service Providers are restricted to only stating that they are approved under the Citizenship by Investment Programme and by the provision of a link to the website ciu.gov.kn." Thus, I think that the government is against any type of bias or self-promotion when it comes to this program. As well, the attorney's office that is linked to is not even authorized by the St. Kitts and Nevis government to assist with this program. The attorneys are in Pakistan as far as I can tell. Again, the government website is very informative and is 100% neutral. Linking to 3rd party (for profit) companies only looks like these companies are attempting to promote themselves. All links and references in this section should direct readers to a neutral and original source, namely the government's official website that describes this program in detail.

The government website: http://ciu.gov.kn/     Island reader (talk) 09:39, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Name in 1961
I just created Category:1961 establishments in Saint Kitts and Nevis as well as the associated category hierarchy to connect with the wider scheme already in place for other nations. Now, after having done this I came to learn that this sovereign nation wasn't actually established until 1983. I'm not quote sure what would be the best way to deal with this. I've hooked this category up to the United Kingdom hierarchy for starters. I'll be happy to hear others' reactions and ideas on this. __meco (talk) 01:10, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Crime Rate?
I think there should be some information on crime included. According to List of countries by intentional homicide rate it has the 3rd highest murder rate in the world. Kevink707 (talk) 00:42, 17 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Small population + gang war according to:
 * http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1110973/Return-noose-St-Kitts-just-hanged-man-decade-believes-way-beat-violent-crime.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.16.158.138 (talk) 08:34, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Ethnic Groups?
90.4% Black 5.0% Mulatto 3.0% East Indian 1.0% White 0.6% others

These are races. Not ethnic groups... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.155.134.43 (talk) 07:50, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

St. Kitts Scenic Railway
I am desperately searching for a photograph of the St. Kitts Scenic Railway. Can anyone help, please? --NearEMPTiness (talk) 13:00, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

'Imminent genocide"

I think this phrase in the article gets it the wrong way round:

" to pre-empt an imminent genocide of the European settlers by the islanders.[7]" Would it not be more accurate to suggest that the 'European settlers pre-empted an incipient uprising' (and their massacre of the islanders may well be more accurately described as attempted genocide?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.6.151.127 (talk) 10:52, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

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Orphaned references in Saint Kitts and Nevis
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Saint Kitts and Nevis's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Vincent": From Charlestown, Nevis:  From Battle of St. Kitts (1629):  From Brimstone Hill Fortress National Park:  From Nevis:  From History of Saint Kitts and Nevis:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 17:01, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Elevation
Seems to be no data about min/avg/max elevation of the two islands. Michaelmross (talk) 01:01, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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