Talk:Saint Louis University/Archive 1

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Introduction: the rank as #70 in 2011 US News and World Report Best Colleges is not supported by the actual US News ranking, which is #86.

St. Louis University is actually the OLDEST Jesuit University in the United States. Georgetown College is older, but St. Louis University was incorporated as a University before Georgetown was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.217.56.102 (talk) 18:06, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Pics
We need some pictures of the building projects. Can anyone gather these up? Also, other good original pics would be great. Pat 06:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Notable/Famous grads or faculty.
It seems that there have been a decent amount of edits adding people to the notable grads or faculty sections. While there are many great people who have graduated from SLU and are doing or have done wonderful things, they don't all qualify as notable or famous. I am trying to be selective in adding to these lists and I have deleted a few people who really are not all that important. A few criteria: If they have their own, well-referenced wikpedia page that passes wikipedia notability guidelines, then they should always be added to this list. Otherwise, if added, I'll be checking what they've written, look for articles about them, look up company websites, etc. to assess whether they belong. If its obvious they don't, I'll take them off. I am open to compromise. If I delete someone you think belongs on these lists, please come here and explain. --Jdcaust (talk) 17:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

High School
I took out this sentence because it is inaccurate since DuBourg Hall was not built until 1889 -- more than 70 years after the school founding. If I can find what was meant, I will put it back. If not somebody else should change the word to include it if you want it in the article:


 * The high school, which was founded along with it, was originally located in DuBourg Hall on the SLU campus but moved to its own campus in the 1920s.

Americasroof (talk) 20:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Known as "The U??"
I have been a student at SLU for four years and have never heard it called "The U." If someone said that, I would naturally think they were talking about Washington University or Mizzou. Everyone at Saint Louis University refers to it as SLU - not read letter by letter but pronounced as "slew" - as in "David slew Goliath." I don't feel qualified to change it, as I do not have any real citation, but it is not cited either and the fact is that it is just made up. Could someone with more time on their hands look into this, determine that it is called SLU (again pronounced as slew) and change this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.134.208.22 (talk) 08:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I've never heard this term either and there is no way it's in common usage. I've purged its inclusion, barring proper citation.  Evolauxia (talk) 08:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * never heard of it either, if it is used it must be used in a very small group of students.--Bhockey10 (talk) 15:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Coeducation
Does anybody know when SLU became coed? I don't think it was founded as a coed institution. If it's in the article, I can't find it. Thanks. Malke 2010  19:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

First Citation
The first citation is just the "Endowment Presentation" PowerPoint which is the citation for all of the "firsts" in the timeline section. This has nothing to do with any of SLU being the first in whatever and should probably be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.134.24.115 (talk) 15:38, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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Departments
There is no list of departments (and structure at all), which is a rather important information.

My search gave:

More departments?
 * Department of Biology : Saint Louis University College of Arts and ...Biology
 * Engineering, Aviation and Technology : Saint Louis University ...EAT
 * Département of Mathematics and Computer Science University of Saint-Louis The Department of Mathematics and Computer Science has split
 * Department of Mathematics and Statistic Department of Mathematics and Statistic
 * Department of Computer Science Department of Computer Science

By the way: The meaning of 'faculty' differs to 'Fakultät' in Germany or 'faculté' in France (which are rather departments), though stemming both from 'Facultas' (I had to learn too .... ) AVS (talk) 08:36, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

"Controversies" section
Sweetbabygang is insisting that this article include a "Controversies" section. The proposed text include two brief paragraphs in their own sections:

2015 Baseball Team Text Message Incident

A group of Saint Louis University baseball players who allegedly made racist remarks in a group text message in 2015 were not formally punished by the University. This led to outcry from alumni, parents, and students.

Alleged Discrimination Against Conservative Students

On November 30, 2021, Dan White, SJ, pastor of St. Francis Xavier College Church, cancelled a Young America's Foundation and SLU College Republicans event featuring conservative commentator Matt Walsh (political commentator), who was set to deliver his lecture "Why the Pro-Life Movement is Center Stage in the Culture War" the following evening. The church faced national backlash from for its decision to concede to pro-choice student and community protesters, whose stances and beliefs are noted to be in direct opposition to Catholic doctrine.

Both of these sections fall afoul of our policies and practices. Specifically, they appear to be giving these incidents undue weight as news that is not noteworthy in the long term. ElKevbo (talk) 18:11, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Seal
The seal file, 'Saint Louis University seal.png' is, contrary to the Madrid branch seal not uploaded to commons. Why? AVS (talk) 08:53, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Splitting proposal
I propose that sections Notable Alumni and Notable Faculty be split into a separate page called List of Saint Louis University people. The content of the current page feels too lengthy and these sections are large enough to make their own page. See List of Drew University people and List of University of Southern California people for good examples of what I'm proposing. JohnHawkinsBois (talk) 17:34, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Gonna go ahead and close this per WP:Silence. I moved List of Saint Louis University presidents to create the initial page, and subsequently moved the info from this article there. Feel free to leave notes on my talk page if you would like to further discuss. --JohnHawkinsBois (talk) 18:29, 24 March 2022 (UTC)