Talk:Saint Mary's University (Halifax)

Copyright vio
a significant amount of the contents of this article has been pulled from several st. mary's websites. The sources can be found by putting any segment of the text into google. -PullUpYourSocks 20:10, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

- Should be all good now, I redid most of the page the one source I did use (academic calender) is credited. Lord of Haha 17:36, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges in North America
Does the above category apply? --YUL89YYZ 19:37, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

-- Sorry for taking some time to respond hadn't looked at the talk page in a while. SMU is a Jesuit founded school, which is a branch off of Roman Catholism (as a religious order - think monks) so in my opinion yes it would apply - Even if the school is more or less secular (for example an old church is now classrooms/computer labs) it still has a few religious elements left (ie: an associated Archbishop) Lord of Haha 03:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

-- It definately does, the Chancellor is the Archbishop, and a Sacred Heart school is on Campus property.

-- Thanks, I have added the category. --YUL89YYZ 19:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

-- Saint Mary's should not be listed as a Roman Catholic institution. It was founded and run by groups affiiliated with the RC church (i.e. The Jesuits, the Irish Brotherhood), but since 1970, it was been a completely secular institution. The Chancellor may be the Archbishop of Halifax, but this is a largely ceremonial post; only 4 of 34 member of the Board of Governors are affiliated with the church. All academic decisions are made by a Senate completely independent of the Church. The School does not have a faculty of theology, and has a prominent diversified, multi-cultural student body. Finally, the Sacred Heart School of Halifax, a private Catholic dayschool, is not on campus property, but in an old church-hall owned by the Diocese of Halifax. The private elementary dayschool and Saint Mary's have no formal or legal connections to one another. SMU was once a religiously-affiliated institution, as St. Jerome's College at uwaterloo.ca, or St. Michael's College or Victoria College, at utoronto.ca are, but is now a completely secular institution..

The school's organizational structure can be found at: http://www.smu.ca/ug/documents/UnivOrgChart2006.pdf Its Board of Governors can be found at: http://www.smu.ca/ug/documents/BoardofGovernors2005-06.pdf


 * The school, while founded with affiliations to the Catholic Church, was not founded by the Jesuits. They were invited to teach at the school many years after it was founded. CMacMillan 01:39, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

-- since the Act of 1970 includes among the objects of the University "to give special emphasis to the Christian tradition and values in higher education" it might not be 100% accurate to say it is completely secular, although it might be in practice. Also, the published list of governors includes 4 ex officio Catholics, but allows for 5 (one is vacant) and the Act allows for a representative of the Jesuits, so a total of 6 is foreseen. 142.177.138.17 03:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

--the university itself calls itself one of the 'oldest english speaking roman catholic university in canada'....and, reverend burke, later bishop burke of the catholic church initiated instruction at the Glebe House in 1802 which the university traces it's beginnings to....not jesuits nor the the christian brotherhood, both of whom were much later developments. please see http://www.smu.ca/administration/externalaffairs/publicaffairs/history.html for more information, the timeline provides a guide to the information nicely. Arkhan83 (talk) 07:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

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glebe house
Hello,

The glebe house link in the history part is not the correct one.... I'll try and get a picture of it and/or the plaque outside of it now...would it be needed?....i think it houses the library of the catholic church now? not entirely sure.Arkhan83 (talk) 07:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Glebe House is the red building on the corner of Barrington & Spring Garden (beside the Saint Mary's Church) Lord of Haha (talk) 05:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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Formatting
There's something wrong with the formatting at the top of the page that's beyond my ability to fix. . . Awien (talk) 03:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Rationale For Listing Members of the Senate
What is the rationale for listing the members of the Senate? Most members are not noteworthy in any fashion (i.e. hardly any of them would qualify for their own wikipedia entries, I'd imagine). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.238.153 (talk) 00:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed and removed. Double Blue  (Talk) 03:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

New secular Chancellor at SMU
With the departure, from Halifax, of the Most Reverend Archbishop Terrence Pendergast, SJ, Saint Mary's University has cut it's last ties with the Roman Catholic Church. The positions of Chancellor and Vice-Chancellor have passed out of church hands. Dr. David F Sobey, Ret'd Chairman of Sobey's Inc., was installed as the university's Chancellor and University President Dr. J. Colin Dobbs named as Vice-Chancellor on May 23, 2008. --Northern Gentlemen (talk) 22:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)Northern Gentlemen

Merger discussion
I have found Masters of Management: Co-operatives and Credit Unions while new page patrolling. I think it might be a good idea to merge these two articles, even if it's in reverse order than suggested by the merger templates. If there is no objection in seven days, I'll go ahead and merge. --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:12, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The MMCCU page (and Masters of Management: Co-operatives and Credit Unions) should remain a unique page with a link to the St. Mary's page. This is a bonafide masters program that is only taught at St. Mary's. It is the only English language accredited masters program for co-operative management. The SMU page does not cover the university's programs or the uniqueness of those programs. While some of the material has come from the web site, a lot of detail has come from a participant (me). It needs to be a stand alone page. Johnthecoopdude (talk) 03:17, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I would further add that it should be stand-alone in the same sense the the Masters of Business Administration is a stand-alone page. It is housed at St. Mary's University, but theoretically other colleges and universities could develop a similar program (and there is some developmental work towards that at the University of Toronto and the University of Wisconsin-Madison). --Johnthecoopdude (talk) 15:29, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose merger per Johnthecoopdude. Gobonobo  T C 11:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Fails to meet our criteria at WP:Notability (organizations and companies) - no one seems to have found reliable third party sources meeting our criteria for notability, and it should not be a stand alone article. Details from a participant don't belong in the article in any case as they fail our WP:VERIFY policy and are original research, see WP:OR. Dougweller (talk) 09:40, 10 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment But MMCCU is not an organization, it's a degree. I've added some reliable sources to the article that assert its notability. I agree that original research should be removed, but most of what's in the article can be confirmed here. Gobonobo  T C 10:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Notability criteria still apply, and I'd say the organisation page applies as well. As for your sources, how does a press release prove notability? Or a piece by a student on the course? Dougweller (talk) 10:34, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Request
Not affilated to the article: Any student or staff of this University reading that page?--Antemister (talk) 21:06, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

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Request to remove content
Disclosure: I am an employee of Saint Mary's University. As such, I thought it better to request the change rather than do it myself.

I'm proposing the removal of the section on the "Rape chant controversy" on the grounds it is given undue weight in the article. This event happened nine years ago and was not an incident of longstanding significance. Controversies of this scale are not usually cited on other institutional websites.

Alqbeck (talk) 14:32, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * As a former employee of Saint Mary's, directly involved in the changes implemented after the Rape Chant issue, I dispute the change and have rolled it back pending further discussion and feedback from neutral parties. The changes to Saint Mary's culture and policy were *substantial* as a result of this incident. Further, the issue was part of a widespread issue across Canada. Saint Mary's incident spurred change and recognition across the country. The "Declaration of Respect" and Santamarian ceremonies came into effect as a *direct* result of the incident. Lastly, completely wiping the incident from this page is simply vandalism - though given your discussion here, I will refrain from marking it as such. The incident was well-documented and cited, and still referenced in the local community. Other university pages' lack of content of any topic should not inform the content of this page. It is not a public relations or marketing tool like a view book. ·¤:•.° windjade .☼°.¤: 03:52, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: for the reasons described above. That's not undue weight, and even if it was, that does not mean we remove the entire section . (I have no relationship to or prior opinions of this university.)  &#x2130; mi1y&#x29fc;T&middot;C&#x29fd; 11:05, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Latin motto
Since when would Age Quod Agis translate to "What you do, do well"? I only ever remember seeing the Latin (disclosure: former student), but it would be much closer to "Do what you do" or "Do what you want". Then again, age isn't even a Latin word, so I guess it's allowed??

Is this a translation provided by the University? CMacMillan (talk) 23:59, 7 September 2023 (UTC)