Talk:Sakharov Prize

The Prize
Is the Sakharov prize accompanied with a pecuniary package?--10:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes. The prize this year is worth €50,000.Csrster 13:01, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

What exactly is meant by freedom of thought?
I was taught by a very intelligent teacher that there is no such a thing as free speech, only free thought, meaning, you can think freely but not speak freely and I live in the West!!!! So how do we know what all these prize-winners were thinking until they speak or write, by which time their thoughts are no longer thoughts but speeches or wrtings and are no longer free but open to criticism and could become burdens. 86.157.233.184 (talk) 00:39, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Needs sources?
Normally, Featured List or Article has inline sources. The prose might be missing some. --George Ho (talk) 16:01, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

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Unbalanced Lead
Stand-alone_lists sets guidelines for the lead, including the requirement that information is well-balanced. That's currently not the case as undue weight is given to the most recent award. Consequently tagged and either we delist the article or remove this section. 81.204.120.137 (talk) 08:36, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:46, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It's not addressed, you just dumped the text into the table, where it does not belong either. Why dont you just create an article 2017 Sakharov prize? 81.204.120.137 (talk) 08:51, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It's a featured list after all, which you created. You should know better the criteria and requirements. 81.204.120.137 (talk) 08:52, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It addresses your concern on the lead. It's commonplace to discuss the inaugural and most recent recipients in award lists, particularly featured ones.  Yes, I know the criteria, thanks for checking on that. Feel free to expand the notes of the other recipients, that would improve the article as well.  If I have time later I may look into it myself.  Cheers!  The Rambling Man (talk) 08:58, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

I agree with 81.204. The additional text in the "Notes" part of the 2017 prize doesn't fit with the rest of the list. There's a consistency to the table that is completely disrupted by that addition. (Every other note very briefly explains who the winner is/why they won, and that's it. This note goes far beyond that.) I'm struggling to see where this information could be included. If we already had an article on the Democratic opposition in Venezuela, it would make the most sense to put it there. But since that's such a nebulous term, I don't know that creating that article makes a lot of sense. 81.204's suggestion that we create an article on this year's prize seems reasonable to me. (But creating a new article just to better accommodate this information isn't something I feel like doing right now, and from the looks of it, neither does TRM, and 81.204 doesn't have an account.) Another potential option might be to simply create a "History" subsection on this page where we can discuss any of the awards or recipients at more length, starting with this year's. -- irn (talk) 14:14, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Fancy seeing you here. And that's actually not what the IP is saying, the IP is talking an unsuitable lead.  I've already said I'll try to expand the notes on the rest of the list, but I haven't got round to it in the last six hours, so please, let's all have some patience and work to improve things – these things take time. Creating spin-off articles for each Sakharov Prize is a non-starter, the main details of each of the winners is ... in the winners' article.  And when no article exists, the detail resides here.  It's pretty straightforward stuff in my opinion. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:27, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yup, sure is shocking that our interests might overlap. If you plan on expanding the rest of the notes, that sounds like a great start. (You did say that if you have time, you "may look into it", so forgive me for not assuming that it was something you had planned to do.) But I do think it would be better outside of the table, for readability's sake – something along the lines of what I proposed above with a "History" section. And just to be clear, I wasn't suggesting a spin-off for each winner, just this year's because it's so hard to deal with. But if we can incorporate it here without having to create a new article, I don't see any problems with that. -- irn (talk) 17:41, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Anyone can update the article as much or as little as they like. Right now I'm still not convinced that the recently added link to the purported 2017 winner is correct.  The Rambling Man (talk) 17:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Political prisoners?
It seems to me to be a breach of neutrality and a clear expression of bias to call the Venezuelan politicians arrested for breaking the law "polical prisoners". This should be changed so that neutrality can be achieved.Son of Caracas (talk) 13:15, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The prize recognizes them as "political prisoners" and rewarded them in this manner.ZiaLater ( talk ) 19:35, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * There's a difference between a politician, that are a small portion of these prisoners, and the political prisoners, many of which don't have anything to do with politics at all. Now it's customary that these detentions are done without an arrest warrant or in flagrancy, and in some cases the prisoners aren't released even when a tribunal has ruled in favor of their freedom. Only during the last year there were more than five thousand arbitrary detentions. Besides that the prize is awarded with such term, there's a broad consensus now that there isn't an independent judicial branch in Venezuela and that it's currently used as a political tool. --Jamez42 (talk) 21:38, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Award procedure not clear
I've just attempted a small re-organisation of the opening paragraph.

As a result, it becomes obvious that the description of the selection process is almost wholly lacking. The two European Parliament Committees produce a shortlist -- then who chooses one or more suitable candidates to receive the prize, and how is agreement reached on that choice? John Crowfoot (talk) 16:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

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