Talk:Sakura Kasugano/Archive 1

(Dark hadou) Sakura/ evil sakura or sakura with murderious intent Is Reveal In Street Fighter IV Comics
It is reveal that ken, dan, and sakura has the Dark hadou, every one that practice the same style as ryu.. go to www.capcomcomics.com and go up under street fighter IV, you will see the front cover comic page with evil ryu and evil ken. Aton Crow —Preceding undated comment added 22:28, 13 August 2009 (UTC).

Cameos
I've removed the cameo section... That's unimportant stuff!!! 1stLtLombardi 18:12, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Name
Has Capcom officially stated that Kasugano is her last name? If not, I'll remove it. 1stLtLombardi 18:12, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, so don't remove it...阿修羅96 19:23, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Alright. 1stLtLombardi 22:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Language
Is there any evidence that Sakura can speak English? This is fantastically unlikely, as Japan scores very low on standardized English tests, ie and average 180th out of 183. Therefore, for a non-studious Japanese girl to grasp English... then again... she did learn the hadouken. Nawara Ven 23:36, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * During the events of Alpha 3 she speant a lot of time with Dan and Ken, both of whom can speak English. She probably learned the language from them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krendall (talk • contribs) 21:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * This is fan conjecture. It shouldn't be mentioned in an encyclopedic article. Everybody appears to be speaking Japanese in Street Fighter. (just like everybody seems to speak english in english language media no matter where they're from) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.191.22.226 (talk) 21:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Sakura never has done a Seoi Nage ever...
Sakura's punch throw is called the Sakura-jime (Sakura's strangle). This is the move where she "Squeezes her opponent's head" (really their neck) and then elbows their head.

Seoi Nage is Ryu/Ken/Dan/Sean/Akuma's punch throw where they fling the opponent over their shoulder. Sakura never had this move.

Now, if the USA cartoon called it that explicitly, then my mistake. But, if the move was never named explicitly, then it should be referred to as Sakura-jime.
 * My bad. I double checked and it is indeed called "Sakura-jime". Danny Lilithborne 21:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

What's with the pointless trimmings?
Seriously, the last three times it was editted all the person did was take out good information.--Marhawkman 23:37, 6 September 2006 (UTC) It's accurate information about the character.... --Marhawkman 23:11, 8 September 2006 (UTC) I must disagree. It would be non-notable if it was redundant information or not related to the subject of the article. However the article is about the character in general, not just the appearances in the fighting games.--Marhawkman 23:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC) How is that information not redundant? USA cartoon isn't canon anyway. Danny Lilithborne 23:28, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware that Sakura's relationship with Guile in the U.S. cartoon and the fact that she's a schoolgirl constituted "good information". Danny Lilithborne 00:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It's also non-notable. Danny Lilithborne 07:00, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

The part about her in the cartoon is not redundant since that was the only part of the article that mentioned her presense in the cartoon at all. The part about "sunburnt" Sakura isn't redundant since, (as far as I know) it was the only entry in wikipedia about it.--Marhawkman 08:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of bad information, the explanation for Sakura's participation in Street Fighter IV is decidedly one-sided. In order to beat arcade mode as Sakura, she actually defeats Ryu. I have rewritten a bit of that section in order to take into consideration what happens when the player plays as Sakura as well as what is considered "canonical", although I don't know where that came from. inter_something 23:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Name-related edit/revert war
Could we, like, quit it with the revert war, or at least figure out why the person who keeps editing away the "by last names" bit keeps doing so? --Yar Kramer 01:27, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * There's currently a MedCab discussion on this topic. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask the edit/move/revert warring to stop until the editors have come to a consensus one way or the other. Flakeloaf 10:49, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Just to cover my butt, in the aftermath of all that, anyone oppose this being moved to her full name? It just would be cleaner to do overall.--Kung Fu Man 23:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No objection here, of course. It doesn't really matter to me either way. JuJube 01:03, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Rival Schools
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Sakura a playable character in Rival Schools? I can't find my disk and haven't played ina ges but I distinctly remember her having an awesome pairup combo with Hinata from that series. Don't think she was in any of the other ones (tie in character maybe?) but I clearly remember her in the first one. I liked the Rival Schools series too. to bad it got swept aside... Anyways go correct me if I am wrong I beleive I inserted it properly cronologically but I am not sure. Ariolander 08:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well that answers my question. Thanks! Sure thats the right timeline though? Prolly why I missed it. Ariolander 08:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Sakura is indeed in Rival Schools 1. Also, she has officially been stated as a friend of Hinata's. She appears mostly as a "bonus" character, since she has no affiliation with any of the schools in the storyline. Krendall (talk) 21:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

"Sunburned" Sakura
Shouldn't this alternate Sakura be given its own section? If not, I think it should be noted in the gameplay section that she is not an official character. Similarly, I think it should be pointed out that she can only use the Shun Goku Satsu in non-cannon games. Krendall (talk) 21:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Repeated breach of the Wikipedia naming policy
If any users breach the agreed policy by moving these articles back, I'll get some other users to check this matter out. Find one Capcom game where her name is Sakura Kasugano on the player select or under her vital bar... Not her common name in the slightest, and therefore the wrong article name. Mr.bonus (talk) 14:31, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Placed move protection on this page and on the Ken (Street Fighter) page. I was involved in the original debate over article names and I believe common names for article titles was agreed upon. E. Honda's page name was changed from 'Edmond Honda' due to his forename only being mentioned once in Alpha 3 (as opposed to the hundreds of times just 'E. Honda' has been wrote). I think Sakura is very similar - I personally have never even seen the name 'Kasugano' mentioned anywhere in a Capcom game, so I certainly think just Sakura is by far her most commonly known name. Please discuss here before removing the tag and moving articles around. Dan Lander (talk) 02:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The whole "common name vs. full name" debate again. In the All About Capcom Head-to-Head Fighting Games guide has an encyclopedia from page 296 to 349 that list nearly every main, supporting and minor character that has ever appeared in a Capcom Fighting Game up to 2000 (with a few exceptions). Somethings to consider:
 * "Cammy" on pg. 308. Oddly enough, her full name Cammy White is not mentioned once, even though its been used in the SF II Animated Movie, SF II V and in Cannon Spike.
 * "Ken" on page 310. Ken's entry mentions that the full name "Ken Masters" was canonized in SF Zero 2 and was originally from the SF II Animated Movie (although it was actually used before that, with the GI Joe Street Fighter action figures).
 * "Mike Haggar", also on pg. 340, with "Haggar" as a redirect on pg.332
 * "T. Hawk" on pg. 327, with "Thunder Hawk" on pg. 316.
 * "M. Bison" (the boxer) on pg. 302-303. They never address him as "Mike Bison" in the book (only as "Bison" or "M. Bison"), even though Capcom has used that full name before (I heard the narrator of the Japanese featurette Street Fighter II: The History used that full name, which came out around the same time as the film.) The "Mike" entry on pg. 340 states that Mike might be the prototype to M. Bison the boxer due to their similarities.
 * "Edmond Honda" on pg. 302, with "Honda" as a redirect on pg. 332. Oddly enough with the "Movie" version of the character, its the other way around (SF: The Movie versions of the character are given separate entries).
 * "Hibiki Dan" on pg. 335, with "Dan" as a redirect on pg. 325.
 * "Rolento" on pg. 348. The full name "Rolento F. Schugerg" from the Capcom SF Zero 2 secret file is never mentioned.
 * Sakura's entry on pg. 306 list her by her full name "Kasugano Sakura", while the "Sakura" entry on page 314 directs reader to "Kasugano Sakura" entry.
 * "Rainbow Mika" (with "Mika Nanagawa" as her real name) on pg. 347, with "R. Mika" on pg. 296.
 * "Kanzuki Karin" on pg. 307, with "Karin" on pg. 306 as a redirect.
 * "Yang" on pg. 343-344 and "Yun" on pg. 344, with "Yun & Yang" as the collective name of the brothers also on pg. 344. The "Lee Brothers" is listed as an alias for Yun and Yang on pg. 345, mentioning their relationship to Lee from SF I, but they never address them as "Yun Lee" or "Yang Lee" (or "Lee Yun" and "Lee Yang" for that matter).
 * "Sean" on pg. 320. "Sean Matsuda" is never mentioned in the book.
 * "Andore" on pg.299, with "Hugo" on pg. 335 as separate characters.
 * Hope that helps. Jonny2x4 (talk) 01:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I looked on the mediation case and I think the comment by the Mediator (Flakeloaf) makes a lot of sense - "a character's "common name" is the one used to refer to them during character selection, including an announcer's voiceover if any. This means Street Fighter characters' names would be the so-called "common names", while other characters such as those from Samurai Showdown & Virtua Fighter, would retain their full names". - I don't think there would be any problems in determining common names if all users adhered to this. It easily determines the common name - the announcer/energy bar name remains the same in almost every version of each game the character is in and whatever is written/spoken there, indicates exactly what the developers want their characters to be known as. The full names are never used in Soul Calibur, Street Fighter and Darkstalkers but are nearly always used in KOF, Tekken and Virtua Fighter. I defintely agree that the article titles should represent what most people know the characters by and not their full biographical name (that only hardcore fans would be aware of). All sorts of problems occur if a user wanted to find out about Ivy from Soul Calibur for example, but find they've arrived on a page named Isabella Valentine. Lughguy (talk) 02:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

SF4 ending
my issue is mostly with this part here: 'Sakura sees Ryu trying to stop the explosion of the machine holding all of the fighter's data and attempts to help him. Instead, she gets in the way, and Ryu must stop the machine with a Shoryuken since he is worried about Sakura causing the machine to explode and release energy all around. Sakura is engulfed by a red energy and faints, and Ryu carries her to safety.' the issue being that its a very vague way to describe what happened, especially since it revolved around a key plot element of the game. Anyway, the sequence of events is that sakura noticed the light from ryu's hadoken [ryu's arcade end], jumped down to check it out and the machine activated her Satsui no Hadō. ryu, obviously a bit worried by this, stopped the machine with a shoryuken and then carried her out. the fact that the 'red energy' was the satsui no hado is confirmed in ryu ending when he was engulfed and claimed his satsui was activating and in akumas ending, when he sensed ryu's activation. its also in line with the story from the movie in-which SIN is attempting to forcefully research ryu's satsui no hado so that they can activate it in anyone and sell it as a weapon. anyway, i'm nameless so any edits i do will just be reverted anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.210.0.64 (talk) 05:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Fingerpoke of Doom
In the Design and gameplay section of this article, Sakura has a super move for Street Fighter EX3, which was said to resemble the "Fingerpoke of Doom", as found in a Youtube video here. However, no reliable sources could be found and the Youtube video is possibly a copyright violation since it was posted by a user, as opposed to the site's official channels (see WP:YOUTUBE). Therefore, the "Fingerpoke of Doom" claim violates original research. As such, we should just leave it out. Rather than getting involved in the recent edit war that resulted in a user and a sock puppeteer being blocked, I thought I would post a discussion here to see if others can voice their opinion on the matter here. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:57, 6 August 2012 (UTC)