Talk:Salar people

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The article needs to tell what their native tongue IS.

Gringo300 08:00, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"For the Salar, divorce is a very easy procedure, although it can only be requested by the husband. In order to dissolve the marriage, the man only has to tell his wife that he no longer wishes to remain married to her. The woman abandons the conjugal residence and he remains free to be married again." w

no where in islam is this allowed, there has to be an intention which is 3 pronouncements, followed by one month where the women must remain in the house, followed by consultatin with the families to try and resolve the difficulties. If divorce does happen, the man is liable to provide for the wife and children, and he forfeits the initial mahar that was agreed on the marriage.


 * I've put a request for a source. However, it should be pointed out that what Islam states need not be the behavior of its adherents. It simply cannot be an argument used on a site like Wikipedia - unless the article is about Islam. Beetle B. 22:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

"related groups" info removed from infobox
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all Infobox Ethnic group infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 16:39, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi I am Vikrant Salar
Hi, In India,also Salar Sirname people also living in the state -Uttaranchal of india,district-Haridwar,Village -Thithki kavadpur.

Regards, Vikrant Salar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.91.193.50 (talk) 13:16, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Where the Salar live
The Salar (pronounced sah'laar) live in Qinghai province, not Gansu. In Xunhua county in Qinghai province there is even an entire Salar town called Jishi. I was told when I was there that the Salar came to China around 800 years ago when the Mongels conquered China. As a reward for assiting the Mongel invasion they were given land in Qinghai to settle.--Discott (talk) 16:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

The erroneous information about them living in gansu (kansu) probably came from accounts like Marshall Broomhall's book on Islam in ChinaKuoofra (talk) 18:49, 28 October 2012 (UTC)


 * First of all, references to Gansu (Kan-su) in books like Broomhall's are not exactly "erroneous", but rather obsolete. In his day, there was no Qinghai Province, and the NE Qinghai (including Xunhua, the Salar country) was part of the Gansu Province. (As was Ningxia, incidentally). Second, there are some Salars on the Gansu side of the modern Qinghai-Gansu provincial border too, in particular in Gansu's Jishishan Bonan, Dongxiang and Salar Autonomous County. As per China's 2000 Census, as shown in zh:撒拉族, out of 104,503  Salars counted by the census, 87,043 lived in Qinghai, 11,784 in Gansu, 3,762 in Xinjiang, and a couple of thousands throughout the rest of the country. -- Vmenkov (talk) 02:00, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

majority of salars look asian
a banned sockpuppet Greczia has been trying to add pictures of caucasoid looking people onto articles about various turkic peoples, such as the salars and kazakhs, the majority of whom look asian. Most images of salars on wikimedia commons are of asian looking people and only one caucasian looking person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Salar_people&diff=507308671&oldid=506358836

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kazakhs&diff=prev&oldid=509055417

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kumyks&diff=prev&oldid=508197549

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turkic_peoples&diff=prev&oldid=507879961

There are many pan turnaist or turkish centric forums and nationalists who try to promote their claims that all turkic peoples look caucasian like anatolian Turkish people, while in reality, turkic peoples like kirghiz, kazakhs, tuvans, yakuts, salars, and Yugur look majority asian. Mendsetting (talk) 22:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Official chinese exaggeration of the salar's turkic identity
It has been said that the chinese government and scholars have emphasized and blown the salars turkic identity way out of proportion, while marginalizing the tibetan, chinese and other non turkic factors and influences in salar identity and language

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA14#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=MT0VFdKklYoC&pg=PA72#v=onepage&q&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 19:08, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Salars in Ili, Xinjiang
http://books.google.com/books?id=XtW6cox7CIUC&pg=PA279#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA77#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA79#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA82#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA86#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA90#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA116#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA212#v=onepage&q&f=false

Salar military service
The Salars served as soldiers for the Ming and Qing dynasties.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA14#v=onepage&q&f=false

Han Bao pledges alleigance to the Ming dynasty

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA9#v=onepage&q&f=false

1781 Jahriyya revolt
Fighting between the Jahriyya and Khafiyya Sufi orders led to a revolt by the Jahriyya, which was heavily dominated by Salars.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA20#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ciShtCrJijIC&pg=PA21#v=onepage&q&f=false

Page 293, 298, 299

http://www.jstor.org/stable/189017?seq=9

http://www.jstor.org/stable/189017?seq=14

http://www.jstor.org/stable/189017?seq=15

Rajmaan (talk) 02:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Salar spoken language vs literary language
The article confuses spoken and literary languages.

In Medieval Europe, people spoke their local languages among themselves such as Italian, French, Castilian, while not writing them down and using them ad literary languages until much later. They wrote in Latin as their literary language.

In the same way, the Salar do not have an alphabet for their own language. They only speak their language orally, and use the Chinese language to write.

http://traditions.cultural-china.com/en/127Traditions842.html

http://traditions.cultural-china.com/en/127Traditions9610.html

http://traditions.cultural-china.com/en/216T5228T11320.html

http://traditions.cultural-china.com/en/42T1565T2822.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=oWc2I03-UQIC&pg=PA39#v=onepage&q&f=false

04:27, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

The Salar DO have a written language, but 99% of Salar do not use it. For examples of written Salar, see the references in the Salar folklore book as well as the WRITTEN Salar versions of the folklore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.151.31.117 (talk) 23:44, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

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