Talk:Salem State University/Archive 1

Edits
Edited by College Relation's 9/22/06. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)

College Relation's what? Sigh... I love my school anyways. --Asmor (talk) 19:46, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

School Size
Salem State is the third largest public institution of higher education in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts (UMASS Amherest and UMASS Boston enroll more students). - This does not seem to be correct. University of Massachusetts Lowell has 13,602 (2009) students. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.9.37.98 (talk) 19:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

College President
A teacher, scholar, and an administrator, Nancy D. Harrington was born in Salem, Massachusetts. She was educated at Salem State College where she earned her Baccalaureate in Education in 1960 and her Master’s in Education in 1963. Dr. Harrington was awarded a Doctorate in Education in 1970 from Boston University.

After receiving her first degree, she taught at the Kiley School in Peabody. In 1964, she joined the staff at the Horace Mann Laboratory School as a supervising teacher, and in 1967 was named an instructor in the Salem State College Department of Education. She currently holds the rank of Professor of Education and is a member of the graduate faculty of the College. She has also held the titles of Dean of Continuing Education and Special Programs (1976-78), and Dean of Graduate and Continuing Education (1979-86).

Dr. Nancy Harrington has served as Associate Vice President of Academic Affairs/Graduate and Continuing Education at the College (1986-89) and during that same period she also assumed the responsibilities of Acting Vice President of Academic Affairs from January 1987 to August 1987.

Before being named President of the College in May of 1990, Dr. Harrington served as the Vice President of Academic Affairs. Dr. Harrington is a member of the Executive Committee, Salem Partnership; Executive Committee and Vice Chair, Business Development Committee, North Shore Chamber of Commerce; Commissioner, Essex National Heritage Commission; the Council of Presidents, State Colleges, Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

This test was taken verbatim from this source --evrik 17:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * http://www.northshorechamber.org/DECNSBJ04.pdf

Copyright problem
This article has been reverted to an earlier version as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. Text entered in  duplicated at least in part material from [,  and ]. Other content added by this contributor may have been copied from other sources and has been removed in accordance with Copyright violations. Earlier text must not be restored, unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. Content added by other contributors subsequent to the introduction of this material can be restored if it does not merge with this text to create a derivative work. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:34, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see the copyright infringement. For example adding the endowment size to the info box is reporting a fact. Could you please be more specific? Racepacket (talk) 10:58, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I've scheduled a meeting with the Director of Marketing at Salem State College to discuss what the terms of use of information from the Salem State website is. Please don't make any edits until the issue is resolved. Silivrenion (talk) 13:50, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Silivrenion. Donating copyrighted materials set out the the terms required. If they're willing to release the content, please make them aware that they'll either need to place the license on their website or mail the Wikimedia Foundation. Declaration of consent for all enquiries saves a lot of time. :)


 * Racepacket, consider the following:
 * "Salem State is an increasingly green campus, and has established a flourishing recycling program, cleared its Central Campus tidal marsh channels to boost salinity and water flow, established a soft shell clam propagation and reseeding effort at its Cat Cove aquaculture center, and is increasingly landscaping the campus with native trees and shrubs" Compare to article's "Salem State is an increasingly green campus, and has established a flourishing recycling program, cleared its Central Campus tidal marsh channels to boost salinity and water flow, established a soft shell clam propagation and reseeding effort at its Cat Cove aquaculture center, and is increasingly landscaping the campus with native trees and shrubs."
 * : "*Salem State College is the second largest employer in the city of Salem and one of the top five employers on the North Shore * The college generated more than $376 million in economic spending in Massachusetts in FY06, over $210 million of spending in Essex County and over $61 million in the city of Salem * Salem State creates jobs for 3,459 Massachusetts residents, including 593 in Salem and 1,978 throughout Essex County" Compare to article's "Salem State College is the second largest employer in the city of Salem and one of the top five employers on the North Shore. The college generated more than $376 million in economic spending in Massachusetts in fiscal year 2006, over $210 million of spending in Essex County and over $61 million in the city of Salem. Salem State creates jobs for 3,459 Massachusetts residents, including 593 in Salem and 1,978 throughout Essex County."
 * : "Nine trustees are appointed by the governor for five-year terms, renewable once; one alumni trustee is elected by the Alumni Association for a single five-year term; and a student trustee is elected by the student body for one year. Meetings of the full board are held five times annually and are open to the public with the exception of executive sessions.... The board currently has seven standing committees: Executive Committee, Academic Affairs, Finance and Facilities, Human Resources, Student Life, Long Range Planning, and Institutional Advancement. Meetings usually take place on the Salem State College campus." Compare to article's "Nine trustees are appointed by the governor for five-year terms, renewable once; one alumni trustee is elected by the Alumni Association for a single five-year term; and a student trustee is elected by the student body for one year. The full board meets five times annually and are open to the public with the exception of executive sessions. The board currently has seven standing committees: Executive Committee, Academic Affairs, Finance and Facilities, Human Resources, Student Life, Long Range Planning, and Institutional Advancement. Meetings usually take place on the Salem State College campus."
 * While facts are not copyrightable, creative elements of presentation - including both structure and language - are. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:15, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Recent changes to this article introduced content from the official website, such as . These pages are marked "Copyright 2010 Salem State College". While they may have been placed with permission, I'm afraid we need verification of that either at the website itself or through e-mail. See Donating copyrighted materials. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:32, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but the material in the infobox for example are plain facts. Racepacket (talk) 18:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If you want to restore that material pending resolution of the copyright concerns, you certainly can. If we receive a release, we will be able to just restore the last edit to top, presuming that the content meets other policies & guidelines. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:53, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Problems
There is a clear conflict of interest, the article is written like an advertisment and it has one primary source reference and no secondary sources.  Teapot  george Talk  16:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there were problems with User:SalemStateCollege's edits, but there were also problems with User:Moonriddengirl's edits as well:
 * 1) The correct template is Infobox university, she is just changing it into a redirect template.
 * 2) We should report the endowment with the proper source.
 * 3) Under the WP:UNI guidelines, the section should be called "Athletics" not sports. We should report, with sources, which varsity teams are offered.
 * 4) Governance should be explained. The composition of the Board of Trustees and its membership is relevant to the article.
 * 5) Counterproductive to replace 2009 statistics with 2006 statistics. If using the 2009 statistic is a copyright violation, why not using 2006?
 * 6) Adding puffing such as "continue to grow" is POV-pushing.
 * 7) Reporting sourced facts about the composition and demographics of the student population is relevant to the article.

Also note that under WP:UNI guidelines, we generally don't report tuition levels. Racepacket (talk) 19:13, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * In case it wasn't apparent, my edit, singular, was reverting to the last verifiably clean: . However, given my comment above, I trust you now realize that you can restore material that was not violating copyright. Aside from cleaning up copyright problems in this article, I am not a contributor to it and do not plan to become one. I am an uninvolved administrator cleaning up material placed in this article that does not conform to copyright policy, and that's all. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:01, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No personal crticism was intended. I just did not want the editors of this article to feel that the article must remain in its truncated state. I think that licensing from the SSC will help, particularly to get some photos. Most members of WikiProject University believe that a school's article should not be heavily reliant on the school's website. Usually, the website is written by low-level staff with a promotional tone.  Outside press accounts or official documents are usually better sources. I appreciate all that you do for Wikipedia. Racepacket (talk) 02:58, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that what is happening is that User:Silivrenion tried to contact the website/public relations staff at Salem State College. In response, someone created a Wikipedia signon called User:SalemStateCollege perhaps thinking that contributing the material using a sign on by the institution's name will grant permission.  However, what is required is a formal "release" or "letter of permission" that will require higher-level approval, typically including review by the University Counsel.  If they give permission to both copy the material and to create derivative works (specific mention of CC-BY-SA 3.0 would be best) then you can send that to OTRS. In the meantime, I have edited the page to avoid any appearance of copyright infringement. Racepacket (talk) 19:39, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * This is correct. Corey Cronin, director of publications had created a login to personally change the information and update it, however I had informed the institution that they must give explicit permissions, or allow public use. I'm not sure if there's much merit to even attempting factpasting.. We may have to paraphrase everything to complete the article, which wouldn't violate any copyright, correct? There's some nice Wikipedia templates for tables and stuff, we can go all out with the facts and figures with that and not be in violation, right? Silivrenion (talk) 04:48, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

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