Talk:Sam Higginbottom University of Agriculture, Technology and Sciences

Addition of Information
When adding information, especially factual information, it would be great if it were referenced. I am removing the latest edit by 117.199.144.115 as that kind of information is something that needs to be backed up by facts.
 * To user 117.199.144.115 Please provide a reference before you reinsert that information again. Manoj Prajwal (talk) 15:52, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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 * In further detail, the copyrighted content was added here by Historylover123. Minima  c  ( talk ) 19:09, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

The cut and paste copright issue has resurfaced and editors are encouraged to be vigilant as it appears to be a long term and ongoing issue. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  14:05, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

I've cleaned it a third time now, taking out anything not clearly sourced and revdeling pretty much the whole history. Any more copyright violations on this article will now be grounds for an immediate block. Wizardman 19:43, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Jacob School of Biotechnology and Bioengineering - Merge discussion
A separate article has been created on this school. A redirect to this article (as per College_and_university_article_guidelines) has been reversed, so I am opening this topic to discuss it as a merger proposition, which effectively comes down to whether this school is individually notable. AllyD (talk) 11:44, 25 November 2012 (UTC)]


 * Do not merge It has enough information with reliable reference like (HT Campus). It's a bioengineering college in Uttar Pradesh which has 5 departments, separate campus and staff only its affiliation is under SHIATS. This article also qualifies several categories like Education in India and Engineering colleges in Uttar Pradesh.117.205.109.172 (talk) 18:57, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * A first question, then: if "only its affiliation is under SHIATS", it surprises me that it doesn't have its own website and staff email addresses, but instead both come under the shiats.edu.in domain? AllyD (talk) 19:20, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The main question for me, though, is whether this college meets the rather stringent requirement of the Wikipedia policy with its default position of not having separate articles. And while I am about to quote from an unconcluded AfD discussion, a contributed view there has a cogent summary that "The effective criterion for an individual department as shown by consistent decisions in every AfD on them, is world-famous.". While the sources do show Jacob School of Biotechnology and Bioengineering being listed in its own right, is there evidence that it meets that high degree of notability? AllyD (talk) 19:20, 25 November 2012 (UTC)


 * support the merge at this time. there is no content in that article which cannot be appropriately covered and included in this article. should third party sources supplying significant content about the JSBB be added to either that article shortly or to this article over time, then a spin out would be appropriate. --  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  19:03, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * and it looks like there are others from the same section that would be suitable for merging as well Shepherd School of Engineering and Technology; Warner School of Food and Dairy Technology, Vaugh School of Agricultural Engineering and Technology -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  19:06, 25 November 2012 (UTC)


 * should not be merged The webpage (http://shiatsmail.edu.in/faculty/Colleges/coll_BioTechAlliSc.asp) is down right now and yes, it has details of the faculty profiles, emails, departments, etc. Well, JSBB is among the top private schools, if education in India is concerned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neurofreak (talk • contribs) 19:43, 25 November 2012 (UTC)


 * you have addressed neither the concern that for a stand alone article, the subject needs to be the topic of significant coverage by reliable third party sources, nor the fact that what coverage currently exists would be duplicative of what would be legitimately covered in this article. if you wish your opinion to be considered, please make your statement based on policy. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  19:48, 25 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I have some experience with these articles. For some years at first, I tried to save articles of departments and schools at this level, but found I could almost never get consensus. In order to preserve as many articles on academics and academic things as possible, i came to the conclusion that it was better for the friends of these topics at Wikipedia not to leave matters in the hands of those who did not understand the academic world --a situation that would produce really erratic results--, but to be pre-emptive in making only strong easily defensible articles, and to make subdivision articles only for those places with the very strongest world-leading status--the ones where sources could show they were among the top departments in the world, what could actually be called famous.
 * This has been fairly successful. The only difficulty has been when those trying to write as many pages as possible for a particular university get over-enthusiastic. Sometimes these are students on a project; sometime alumni; sometimes the unversity's own PR people--it doesn't really matter.   These schools are  not of that world=leading status, and thus there are for this article really only two possibilities: a merge or a deletion.  This applies to the Shepherd School of Engineering also; it might however be possible to show the two agricultural departments were at leas the leading departments of their subject in India (certainly the department of agricultural engineering was the first in India, which might mean something). The choice are of being reasonable with a merge, or inviting a deletion.  DGG ( talk ) 21:54, 25 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I think only Vaugh School & Jacob School qualifies the wiki guidelines, other schools under SHIATS doesn't deserve separate articles, hence should be merged with SHIATS. Vaugh School is actually the first school in Asia to offer a degree in Ag Eng. & Jacob School is certainly among the top Biotech school in India. 117.205.108.14 (talk) 14:55, 27 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree with you about Vaugh, which is straightforward and able to be documented, but what is the evidence for Jacob?  DGG ( talk ) 02:51, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Jacob school was ranked among top biotech school in Biospectrum & Cybermedia survey. The Department of Biochemistry, Microbiology, Tissue Culture & Genetics were present even before the established of Jacob School, these courses were taught as a part of Agriculture curriculum. http://biospectrumindia.ciol.com/content/studentsspecial/10802071.asp 117.212.112.65 (talk) 16:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Support merge I agree completely with DGG. If we need to call on publishers like this one to establish independent notability, there isn't any... --Randykitty (talk) 16:43, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Do not merge Wikipedia is very useful in providing trustworthy information to prospective students. These schools seems notable to me in Indian Education system. 1.38.164.157 (talk) 17:17, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

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