Talk:Sam Kinison

SAY IT! SAY IT!
Catchphrase? 73.189.13.57 (talk) 00:25, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Breakthrough
The November 14 1985 Letterman appearance is listed as Kinison's breakthrough, however, Kinison's first television appearance was on "Rodney Dangerfield's Ninth Annual Young Comedians Special", broadcast on HBO on August 3 1985. See.

The Letterman show was Kinison's first appearance on broadcast television. --68.219.188.81 15:20, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I corrected the spelling and a little bit of the grammar, but the article is still an infantile eyesore.

Deleted speculative material.
Deleted stuff about Kinison talking before his own death, supposedly about his death. Also deleted stuff about how he might've survived if not for moving around.

The text deleted actually said things like "It is speculated that..." and "it is said that...he is said to have said..." Please, that's junior high.

I don't know that this didn't happen, but it needs to be sourced or verified. The article even gives the impresion that he was alone, so who saw this stuff happen? At the very least it needs a sourced for who reported it. The article still needs a lot of work, but I saw those two paragraphs and couldn't leave them to give some young naive person a false sense of mysticism clouding their understanding of a great comedian.

So, if it happened and someone witnessed it, then cite it. Or, if it's a popular urban legend, then label it as such. But otherwise, leave the "To this day, no one really knows what happened....but some say..." crap to bad television specials.


 * Although everything about this criticism is strictly correct, the omission of this episode is conspicious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cranky1000 (talk • contribs) 13:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * "The article even gives the impresion that he was alone, so who saw this stuff happen?"...That would be APART from his wife of 6 days, who was in the car with him and survived? Or perhaps the drunk 17 year old truck driver who crashed into him, assuming he didn't drive off afterwards.  I'm aware that the memories of people in traumatic situations aren't as trustworthy as totally separate witnesses (cars that stop, for instance, or the ambulance personnel), but in the absence of anything else it's the best we're going to get.  I do agree that it needs to be removed if there's nothing citeable though, but not because no-one was there to witness it because there was at least one other person! 78.86.230.62 (talk) 01:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Folks, there is a reason why they deleted this part. Look it up in other sources including the Las Vegas Review Journal and it will become obvious why they don't want you to read it. 2603:6081:8A00:AC:395D:ADE0:C48F:C58E (talk) 19:41, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Where he died
Does anyone know the exact highway number he was killed on? (unsigned)
 * According to findadeath.com, if you start in LA, head east on I-40, then head north on I-95 at the interchange, it's either three or four miles north of the interchange. --Jkonrath 19:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I-95 is about 2500 miles east of where the collision occurred. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.111.158 (talk) 11:11, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


 * The reference should have been to US Route 95, not Interstate 95. John E Bredehoft (talk) 00:07, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Also, i think he was killed driving a Viper, not a Trans AM. Can anyone confirm this?

Kinison's place of birth
Underneath the picture it says Kinison was born in Peoria, Illinois, but the article states he was born in Yakima, Washington. Which one is it? Born in Yakima, WA. Grew up in E. Peoria, IL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.125.231 (talk) 03:47, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Guitar used in Wild Thing
I'm pretty sure he was playing a custom Kramer Richie Samobora model or a Kramer Liberty, not a Stratocaster. This link shows one guitar of his, and him playing it in the video, and this link shows the supposed airbrushed one. Perhaps someone can take a look at the video and compare?Bryanedp9 16:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

More on Wild Thing
Aerosmith and Slash among others make cameos in the Wild Thing video. I can't believe Dwezel Zappa is listed but they aren't. I'm adding them.

helpful
Maybe it would help people understand the Libyan jokes better if it were clarified that when Mr. Kinison was alluding to "Where do they keep the baby girl" he is talking about how American bombers killed Gaddafi's baby daughter. 68.49.242.230 23:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)ahassan05


 * I think the whole section should be changed. It portrays the routine as being pro-Libyan bombing. I had always thought it fairly obvious that it was not--but if there's really a serious school of thought to the contrary, at the very least both interpretations should be included.


 * It looks like whatever you're talking about is gone. There's nothing about his comedy routines on the page right now, sadly. -- Skierpage (talk) 05:52, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

I believe Mr. Kinison's joke about "bombing" was that at, joke. He was never pro-bombing brown people, especially since he was married to an Arab, Malika Souiri. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.7.75.46 (talk) 23:46, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Photo
Why the heck is there no photograph? What kind of biography doesn't have an image? Tell me some fair-use nazi isn't patrolling this page making sure no one commits the unforgivable sin of seeing what someone actually looks like? 71.110.158.173 19:16, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Death
I corrected the roads listed. Mr Kinison took US 95 North from I-40. He was going to Laughlin, Nevada but turned off to take US 95 by accident. If he had continued into Needles, he would have found the well known (but unmarked at the time) shortcut that he had been told to take. I was a witness to the accident scene. --203.84.188.38 (talk) 15:15, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but there's no way we can confirm that. I'll add tags. IronCrow (talk) 23:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

In "Why Did We Laugh" his brother says that one of the other brothers was murdered (specifically that he was "shot in the head"), anyone know anything about that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.19.104 (talk) 23:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Sam's brother is on the record saying Sammy was in communication with an angel or maybe God as he was dying. Why isn't that in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.49.126 (talk • contribs) 08:52, 25 June 2009

News reports at the time of his death said Sam Kinison was not killed immediately in the crash; in fact, he was ambulatory before paramedics arrived, wandering around dazed at the accident scene, but died of internal injuries soon thereafter. I can't say if he died at the scene or on the way to hospital. Unfortunately, the references used in the article make no mention of these details.&mdash;QuicksilverT @ 16:59, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Nothing about his famine routine?
It seems to me he's most famous for his riff during the Ethiopia famine. "You live in a f***ing desert! Nothing grows out here! See this? This is sand. You know what it's gonna be a hundred years from now?  It's going to be sand! Get your kids, get your shit, we'll make one trip, we'll take you to where the food is!" -- Skierpage (talk) 05:11, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Sam Kinison.jpg
Someone has nominated File:Sam Kinison.jpg for deletion. 70.49.124.225 (talk) 04:16, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Days of Marriage
He was married five days before his untimely death. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.34.211 (talk) 11:24, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

biopic
Having been unable to locate any info on the proposed film after late 2013, I want to edit the Legacy section to downplay the present tense and clarify its increasingly speculative nature. The project is entirely unmentioned at both Josh Gad and Larry Charles, so I could make the case that it's likely dead. Weeb Dingle (talk) 18:35, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I typed Josh Gad Sam Kinison (and didn't even use quotes) into Google and found a July 2015 interview "In 2013, word surfaced of a biopic starring Josh Gad about legendary animated comedian Sam Kinison. Almost two years later, it appears the project is still in development with Gad, and is still likely to be directed by Borat’s Larry Charles."
 * And that was the first result on the page. I haven't even attempted to look further. Kellymoat (talk) 18:41, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Howard Stern
There are zero references to the Stern show? He was a guest at least 100 times. Artificial Nagger (talk) 04:46, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Was Kinison in Texas Outlaw Comics?
The Ron Shock article reads Shock, himself the founder of Texas Outlaw Comics, said Kinison was not in Texas Outlaw Comics, but rather Outlaws of Comedy. The Texas Outlaw Comics and Sam Kinison articles say he was. Which was it? 71.62.226.224 (talk) 14:56, 17 January 2024 (UTC)