Talk:Sambuvarayar

Sambuvarayar Dynasty 

Vanniyar and Palli
Please don not push your opinion that the ancient term vanniyar (meaning warrior/chieftain) is synonymous with the modern usage for the Vanniyar/Palli caste. That is merely an origin myth propagated by vain members of that caste since the 19th century and, despite assertions that were once in various articles, Noboru Karashima has been explicit in saying it is dodgy to connect the two. - Sitush (talk) 06:48, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


 * See, for example, here. - Sitush (talk) 07:47, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Have u read Noboru Karashima's South Indian Society in Transition??He clearly says that the sambuvarayas belong to the "Palli" Jati in that book.How did you arrive to the conclusion that its an origin myth?.Your example doesn't even mention about sambuvarayas.Do you even know tamil?

Read Noboru Karashima's work or do a research and prove him otherwise.Modern usage??since when?Have you gone through at least the copper plate grants released by the palli people??

Sambuvarayas and Palli Jati
Noboru Karashima in his book Ancient to Medieval:South Indian Society in Transition has stated on Page Number 143 and I quote,'Ammaiyappan Pandyan Naralokavirapperaiyan of Sengeni,who may be identified with Rajendrachola Sambuvarayan apperaring in the next Siyamangalam inscription,is stated to be a Kudipalli of Munnuru in Vijayarajendra-valanadu.and the term Kudipalli would show that he belonged to a group of landholding (Kudi) Pallis ' Sitush have you even seen that book????