Talk:Samuel Loomis

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Plot synopsis
There is a suggestion that this page needs more references and sources. For a page that is essentially a plot synopsis of a number of films, I think that is a bit unnecessary. I would go out on a limb and guess that the reference material or source for the assertions regarding Halloween 4 might be, oh, Halloween 4?Pink-thunderbolt (talk) 16:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not unnecessary; it's policy. The amount of plot synopsis that's included should be trimmed too. See WP:V and WP:PLOT. Rray (talk) 17:38, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you honestly trying to tell me you have no idea that section describing what happens in the movie Halloween 4 is based on the film Halloween 4? You can have all the policies that you want, but unless you have a point of contention about what actually happens in the movie at a certain point, such as, whether the old man who gives Loomis a ride into Haddonfield is crazy or in the same situation as Loomis, and you are going to point to the differences between a director's cut and the theatrical release, you are wasting everyone's time. The heading says Halloween 4, the underlying paragraph refers to that work.Pink-thunderbolt (talk) 22:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)


 * No, I'm honestly trying to tell you that encyclopedia articles are supposed to include multiple references. No one's time has been wasted because I added an accurate tag to an article and then explained why on the talk page of the article. Chill out. Rray (talk) 23:10, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, but it does have multiple references. Halloween, and Halloween 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc. But good luck getting multiple references on the events of Halloween 4. If you wish hard enough, maybe someone will publish a book or scholarly article on Dr. Samuel Loomis from the Halloween series so that you can have your multiple references. I wouldn't hold my breath though. Your time would be better spent unicorn spotting. Pink-thunderbolt (talk) 02:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you should nominate the article for deletion then, since you seem to think that reliable sources don't exist to demonstrate the subject's notability. Rray (talk) 02:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you just trying to win an argument now by using a strawman? I already told you that this article doesn't need to cite anything other than the movies as reference material regarding what happens in the movies. I'm sorry that no one has called you on behalf of the late Alfred Nobel yet about the massive contribution to the world that you made when you pointed out that the paragraph about Halloween 7 doesn't have a footnote that says, "Halloween 7, ibid." If someone really needs it pointed out to them where the information about Halloween 5 comes from, then they probably can't read in the first place.Pink-thunderbolt (talk) 08:11, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The tag is correctly placed. The article needs more references. I won't be arguing the point with you any further. Rray (talk) 14:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Just admit that you're wrong. There's nearly ten films that are used as the source material, and it's patently obvious, and you just got a little tag happy. There's no shame in it. It can happen to anyone. You've spent more time arguing that there should be more references than it would have taken you to find something else to reference if you felt it was so necessary. If you can't come up with something to reference, I am considering removing the tag.Pink-thunderbolt (talk) 16:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I think you're correct. The problem is not the lack of sourcing; the problem is that the plot summary section is too long (over 3200 words). I've removed the refimprove tag and replaced it with a tag indicating that the article contains too much plot summary. If I have time, I'll try to trim the amount of plot summary that's included in the article myself at some point, maybe after Christmas day, and then we can remove that tag too. Happy holidays. Rray (talk) 18:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Halloween: Sam
Just wondering if anyone read "Sam" on halloweencomics.com and was going to update the article on it.--CyberGhostface (talk) 20:11, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it would be cool to put it up there, but possibly not in the main body of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mm2dylan (talk • contribs) 05:34, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Move?

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was moved. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:59, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Samuel J. Loomis → Samuel Loomis &mdash; Per naming conventions, the title of the page should be the most commonly recognized usage. The "J" middle initial is rarely, if ever actually seen in mainstream media. This appears to be more in-universe than encyclopedic listing. There is currently a redirect error when I attempt to move the page.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  23:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC) —    BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  23:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Page Samuel Loomis describes another man. Page Sam Loomis lists 3 men names Sam(uel) Loomis. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:31, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Support IAW WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Note that Samuel Loomis will need to be moved to Samuel Loomis (businessperson) before performing this move. — V = I * R  (talk to Ω) 12:16, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Support and suggest having a hatnote for the businessperson (when the move is complete) and perhaps a second hatnote saying, "Not to be confused with Samuel Lewis." Erik (talk | contribs) 15:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Psychiatrist
Loomis is a psychiatrist (MD) not a psychologist (PHD). Only a psychiatrist can administer psychotropic medications like Thorazine. This is an error not only in this article but also made at points in the Halloween franchise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.90.251.109 (talk) 09:55, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Inspiration
Could Loomis have been inspired by Truman Capote? After all both interviewed mass murderers and went on to write bestselling books about them? --194.81.33.25 (talk) 13:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Michael Audrey Myers?
In the section "Tenure at Smith's Grove, 1963 - 1978", the character of Michael Myers is given the middle name "Audrey". This seems a bit silly for the character in question, which strikes me as possible vandalism. Any thoughts? -Fogelmatrix (talk) 13:38, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

No, because in the actual film (particularly the Television Cut of Halloween [1978]), Michael's full name is given as Michael Audrey Myers.Mm2dylan (talk) 05:38, 21 October 2012 (UTC)