Talk:Samuel Wallis

Old DNB article
The old DNB article (public domain) is here I shall return in time and add material from it. DuncanHill (talk) 15:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Cornish is not a nationality
In attempting to bring this article into line with the MOS, i changed "cornish" which is not a nationality to British. This is in line with MOS and certainly not inaccurate. There for my edit should not have been undone by Duncan Hill. BritishWatcher (talk) 16:45, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * MOS does not state that the intro has to contain a nationality. --Joowwww (talk) 16:57, 5 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Manual_of_Style_(biographies)
 * Context (location, nationality, or ethnicity);
 * In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen or national, or was a citizen when the person became notable.
 * Ethnicity or sexuality should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities and/or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability.
 * It seems to me that nationality being included is totally justified based on that MOS. Of course there is exceptions with the UK because of English,Scottish,Welsh and Northern Irish identities, but nowhere in that WP:UKNATIONALS does it say "Cornish" should be treated in that way. Cornish is not a nationality and simply putting it in the first sentence as an "ethnicity" is no use to anyone and goes against the second paragraph shown above of the MOS. BritishWatcher (talk) 17:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Please stop lying. It was not in the lead paragraph as an ethnicity, simply as an adjective commonly used in British English to describe people from Cornwall. DuncanHill (talk) 17:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for confirming that Cornish is not in the lead paragraph as an ethnicity. This makes the changes i made even more justified. Cornish is not a nationality and you have accepted Cornish was not there as an ethnicity. Per WP:MOS Cornish has no place in the lead sentence of any article with the exception of a period long before Cornwall was clearly considered part of England or the UK existed, i purposely avoided such articles to ensure my edits were accurate and in line with MOS. BritishWatcher (talk) 17:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)