Talk:San Diego–Tijuana/Archive 2

"Largest, most southwestern city"

 * Surely the most southwestern city in the United States must be one of the cities in the State of Hawaii, since that state is to the southwest of the North American mainland. The largest most southwestern city would thus be Honolulu, not San Diego.  Do lets try to remember that Hawaii is permanently part of the United States.

Hawaii is the most southerly state in the United States. Alaska is the most northerly and most westerly. Maine is the most easterly state. Several other U.S. territories are further east, west and south than those three states; but they, obviously, are not states, and all but one of them is an unincorporated territory or commonwealth. FYI, under current law, an unincorporated territory can be sold, given away, given its freedom, or simply abandoned. An incorporated territory, on the other hand, is a permanent part of the USA and must be kept.

76.126.3.38 (talk) 20:54, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I stumbled across this line in the article:

"San Diego is the largest, most southwestern, city in the United States...."

I'm not sure what this means. If SD is the "most" southwestern city in the US, then obviously it's the largest such city, since there's only one. On the other hand, if it's just supposed to mean that San Diego is the largest city in some undefined southwestern sub-region of California, that should be stated more clearly. I'm not that great with Southern California geography but I do know that San Diego definitely isn't the largest city in the U.S., which the sentence kind of implies.

We could just eliminate the "largest" part, but I don't know if the sentence would still be accurate. AgnosticAphid talk 04:27, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The sentence was meant to imply that it was meant to differentiate San Diego from Imperial Beach, California, the most southwestern city in the United States, but not nearly as large as neighboring San Diego. The sentence was changed to prevent further confusion. Thanks for bringing the matter up! 08OceanBeach S.D.  09:02, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't the most southwestern city in the US be in Hawaii somewhere? Alex Dodge (talk) 23:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup. Unscintillating (talk) 00:05, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Principal Cities list, inaccurate
The top right infobox looks inaccurate to this native of the Tijuana-San Diego metro area. San Marcos and Carlsbad while part of the larger metro area are very far north of the border region and should be much lower on the list than the following suggestions. The San Ysidro, CA/Tijuana, B.C. border crossing is the largest (in volume of people crossing from either side) in the world, so San Ysidro should definitely be on there. So should Otay Mesa, CA/Tijuana, B.C., a large crossing further east. If this article is to include Tecate, B.C., it should probably include Tecate, CA, just on the other side of that border crossing.

Other principle cities on the California side of the border region include: Chula Vista, Imperial Beach, and downtown San Diego. I'm surprised National City made the list before its bigger and more southern neighbor, Chula Vista. On the Baja California side, nearby Ensenada should be included as it is a principal tourist center for Americans and the location of a principal Mexican port and aquaculture. Given its economic prowess, Ensenada would make it on the list before the tiny beach town of Rosarito.

ORIGINAL LIST: San Diego (sic) - Tijuana - Carlsbad - San Marcos - National City - Rosarito Beach - Tecate

THE LIST I PROPOSE: Tijuana-San Diego Metro Area - Tijuana - San Diego (downtown) - San Ysidro - Chula Vista - Ensenada - Imperial Beach - Rosarito - National City - Tecate (B.C), Tecate (CA) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eekiv (talk • contribs) 18:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The reason that Chula Vista and Imperial Beach or not on the list is because they are not considered principle cities in the San Diego metropolitan area. See the census site that lists the principle cities of U.S. metropolitan areas here. San Ysidro is not fitted for placement on the list because it is in South San Diego and thus a neighborhood of San Diego. I can agree with your logic for including Ensenada on the list before Rosarito Beach. Both are reasonable inclusions as they are economic centers. However, Tecate's inclusion is not as easily supported. The town wields little economic influence, nor is it a large population center, though its border location provides it an amount of influence. Thus I could see a list, or similar list, listing the following: San Diego, Tijuana, Carlsbad, San Marcos, Ensenada, National City, Rosarito Beach, and Tecate. 08OceanBeach S.D.  21:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Why does this article exist?
What is the basis for this contrived, overreaching linkage between these two cities? I see no justification anywhere on the talk page or in the article itself. Freakdog (talk) 06:32, 13 January 2012 (UTC)