Talk:San Diego Zoo Safari Park

Marj -- IIRC, it's Przewalski's horse...if that's what you're talking about. But don't hold me to it! JHK

JH -- I verified it at the zoo's website, thanks! And has anybody else noticed how much the Przewalski's horses resemble the clay Chinese horses that were buried with the clay army? Marj Tiefert

Copyright
There may be some copyright infringement in the current revision of the article, as suggested by the following line from the lede:


 * The park is also noted for its California condor breeding program, possibly the most successful program in the country, as well as an amazing collection of rare hornbills.

This should be compared with the following from this site:


 * The park is also noted for its highly successful California Condor breeding program and an amazing collection of rare hornbills.

It will probably be good to go through the article and reword things. modify 15:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Wgasa
Shouldn't the myth of calling it Wgasa for the abbreviation "Who Gives A Shit Anyways" be mentioned? It's linked, but that's it.
 * Ahem... who says it's a myth? Sheep81 17:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Because the Wgasa Bush Railway is no longer in operation, shouldn't the part in the introduction stating that the "Wgasa Railway explores 700 acres worth of free range exhibits" be removed?

Yes, please feel free to update it with some information about the new tram system Linelor 00:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Man this ruins my childhood... The Monorail was the best part of the Wild Animal Park. I remember we went to the park just to ride it. Sometimes more than once. Heh, and the mule dear always just standing on the tracks. Good times. Can't believe its gone... T.T Rogutaan 02:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

The part about the "Who gives a [expletive] anyway" shouldn't be included because it has a swear word. I don't think people need (or want) to know that. Duh!

Sure they do. Duh! Anyhow, here's Snopes on the subject: http://www.snopes.com/business/names/wgasa.asp Kostaki mou (talk) 21:42, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Land Area
There seems to be some inconsistency in the amount of land area of the park. In the description box, it states 700 acres, while on the article it lists 1,800 acres. Which is the accurate figure? Mim37204 18:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Zoo

 * Please consider helping to improve not only this article but all the articles under WikiProject Zoos WP:ZOO Scope. We are in desperate need of members.  Zoo Pro  08:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Address and location
While the mailing address of the Wild Animal Park does indeed say Escondido, the park itself is located entirely within San Diego city limits. Compare this map, generated using official county GIS data (you can make your own version if you'd like) to the Google Maps image of the park's footprint. Or for that matter look in any San Diego Thomas Guide (maps 1130 and 1131). It's close to Escondido, in some places very close, but it's still completely in the city of San Diego.

The reason the street address says Escondido is due to the peculiarities of the ZIP code system. "Escondido, CA 92027" does not mean the address is located in Escondido. It means it's located in ZIP code 92027, and the ZIP code is named "Escondido". ZIP code 92027 covers land in Escondido, unincorporated portions of the county, and the portion of San Diego containing and surrounding the Wild Animal Park. (The green line on the SANDAG map is the ZIP code boundary.) This is not at all an uncommon phenomenon; I personally live in Bonsall but have a mailing address saying "Vista".

Hope this clears up any confusion. -Branddobbe (talk) 06:24, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, I took the mailing address out of the "location" field in the infobox, as none of the other zoo articles I looked at had anything more than city and state. -Branddobbe (talk) 06:29, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * wikipedia is about verifiability. It must be verified by citations. There were three, and still the information was changed back to something that cannot be verified with a citation.--Jojhutton (talk) 11:29, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Why is the name changed?
The Board of directors decided to change the name of the park to San Diego Zoo Safari Park. That vote solidified the name change. They gave no specific date for the official name change to happen, but rather are going to do so gradually, so as to not have to purchase new items, they are going to replace them over time, as they run out of them. As this process has already officially begun, the name of the park on wikipedia will officially be "San Diego Zoo Safari Park".--Jojhutton (talk) 02:55, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I have inquired about this topic at Wikipedia talk:Article titles. Evil saltine (talk) 03:29, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The direction of that discussion is leaning toward retaining the name "San Diego Wild Animal Park" until they actually start to implement the new name - which they have not at this point. Even the Park's website still says "Wild Animal Park"; the term "Safari Park" is not mentioned anywhere on the website that I could find. I think we have jumped the gun on this one, but I'd like to see consensus before any more changes are made. --MelanieN (talk) 23:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, they just changed the name at the park's website, so I guess it should stay as San Diego Zoo Safari Park here. --MelanieN (talk) 03:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Told ya.--Jojhutton (talk) 23:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

New photo needed
The name change has been completed, but the photo still shows the old sign. Anyone have a picture of the new sign? --MelanieN (talk) 02:34, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Animal lists?
I see that someone has apparently started to create lists, by exhibit area, of all the animals in each area of the park. Is that something we feel is appropriate? Similar lists at San Diego Zoo were deleted after discussion at Talk:San Diego Zoo a few months ago. Consensus was that such lists are unencyclopedic, unverified, tend to overwhelm the article, and are all but impossible to keep current as animals are born, acquired, transferred, and die. Comments? --MelanieN (talk) 20:51, 23 April 2011 (UTC)


 * My opinion has not changed on this since the SD Zoo discussion. On the one hand I don't generally delete lists that already exist (though I have been known to put them in a collapsible section or "narratize" them), but otherwise I agree with MelanieN for exactly the stated reasons. Animal lists are guaranteed to be out of date the minute they are updated, and especially in smaller articles they have a tendency to overwhelm the article. Donlammers (talk) 02:40, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Nothing further has been done with the partial lists that were added to the article, and there is no sourcing to support them, so I am going to delete the whole section. --MelanieN (talk) 00:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I thought I had taken care of all these list "addback"s in both the zoo and the safari park. Donlammers (talk) 01:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Food
Shouldn't the article say something about food? In particular is there any feeding of animals by humans (the staff) or are they left to fend for themselves as in African game reserves? Presumably the former, but in either case the article should say so. Vaughan Pratt (talk) 18:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Location
The Escondido location is the mailing address, not the physical location. Look at the map, it's in San Diego. Enter "San Diego, CA" on Google Maps (map view, not satellite), pan and zoom to the north eastern horn of San Diego and you will see the Safari Park inside of the San Diego boarder. Enter "92027" on Google maps https://www.google.com/maps/place/92027 and you can see that part of 92027 (Escondido) overlaps with the city of San Diego and the Safari Park. It's the US Post Office that says the Safari Park is in Escondido, not the surveyors. The ZSSD (Zoological Society of San Diego) ''operates the San Diego Zoo and the San Diego Zoo Safari Park pursuant to lease agreements with the City of San Diego. The agreements provide that title to the ZSSD’s property and exhibits is vested in the City.'' http://docs.sandiego.gov/councilcomm_agendas_attach/2014/edir_140115_1c1.pdf pg 9 (pdf pg 14) The Safari Park land is leased from the City of San Diego, not Escondido. Jim1138 (talk) 11:23, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * You are right, of course. And the text, in the lead sentence, makes that clear. The problem is in the infobox. I tried changing it from "location" to "mailing address" but the infobox code doesn't recognize that. Any suggestions for how to fix it? Should we simply not list anything under "location"? --MelanieN (talk) 14:55, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I added "City of San Diego" followed by "Mailing address". Seems to work. Cheers Jim1138 (talk)
 * Good solution. Thanks, Jim1138! --MelanieN (talk) 13:42, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

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