Talk:San Francisco (decorative typeface)

Saint Francis font?
Hello! I really liked the crazy font San Francisco when I first saw it years ago. Imagine my delight when I heard of Saint Francis, a TrueType version that wasn't limited to the original's 18 point size at 72 dpi. Alas, I have so far failed to get my hands on a working copy.

The one the article links to renders wrongly on my Mac (OS X 10.4.10) with the lowercase letters all shifted along one. If I type "abc xyz" then change the font to Saint Francis, it displays "bcd yz{". Other versions that I have found on the Net are simply reported to be corrupt by Font Book. Would someone please advise? (Is this an appropriate place to ask?!)

Also, the font shown in the images must be Saint Francis, not San Francisco, which would pixelate horribly at that size. SkiSkywalker 23:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I think I had that problem at one point (but only on Macs IIRC), as well. I don't know if I was able to resolve it or not, as it's not a typeface I use often.


 * If you are interested in recreations of old Apple fonts, I suggest you look at my work on the 68kMLA wiki. We have a local (maybe fixed?) archive of Saint Francis.  Also, there is another San Francisco recreation that may work better for you. ⇔ ChristTrekker 15:41, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for pointing out Fernando; that font seems to work nicely! But your local archive of Saint Francis doesn't seem quite right. I decompressed it using Archive Manager, Stuffit and The Unarchiver but I get the same result: No error messages, but the file SaintFrancis.suit is empty (zero bytes) and the strangely named SAF_____.TTF exhibits the above problem with lowercase letters. At least with other copies I found, SaintFrancis.suit was not empty. Weird isn't it? SkiSkywalker (talk) 00:51, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I think this was the PC version. (Hence the .ttf name.) That may explain some of the oddities if/when used on a Mac. ⇔ ChristTrekker 13:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Apple Watch Font
So, Apple just released the Apple Watch HIG and with it another font they created entitled San Francisco, made specifically for the Apple Watch. It's a long long way away from the old San Francisco. How do you all want to go about Wikitizing this? westin (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * It would be better to separate them. However, given that nobody has written anything on the old typeface, that both typefaces belong to Apple and that a (web) search will probably lead to this article anyway, I would certainly also be in favour of keeping a composite article instead (renaming the article into "San Francicso (typefaces)").--Totie (talk) 06:31, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The articles are now split into San Francisco (1984 typeface) and San Francisco (2014 typeface). --Moyogo/ (talk) 13:23, 19 November 2014 (UTC)