Talk:San José, Costa Rica

WRONG CLIMATIC TABLES
This table has got the climate of the Juan Santamaria Airport, which is on the outskirts of Alajuela, which climate is completely different from that of San Jose (the dry season is mostly cloudy in San Jose due to the influence of the Caribbeans, while it's bone dry in Alajuela). The statistics are wrong and nothing to do with the San Jose climate, which is considerably cooler and devoid of sunshine compared to that of Alajuela.

This article Does Not Uphold Wikipedia Standards
with information such as "Nickname: poop", you guys should be ashamed. This is not Uncyclopedia, this is Wikipedia, and it is completely unacceptable. This article needs to be corrected, AND LOCKED FROM FURTHER EDITING. Thank you, Wikipedia guest --24.15.54.170 (talk) 02:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Page changes
I want you to review the next two versions of this links. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=San_Jos%C3%A9%2C_Costa_Rica&diff=205626433&oldid=205552898

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=San_Jos%C3%A9%2C_Costa_Rica&diff=205552898&oldid=205480596

What's the better one, I have been dealing with Cheeser1 about the page changes, he tells me I'm butchering English, am I? it certainly looks like vandalism to me. I see nothing more than a rare version of the English language, and images which depict the dark "poor" side of Costa Rica, I also don't think that Santa Ana and Escazu are part of San José, they are frequently described as different cities, they are. So, in the holy name of God does this user has with things depicting the city as a good place?

Also, the user wrote the bar "Sand Live" and not the "Sand Live" bar. A bad grammar example.

190.140.233.121 (talk) 20:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Edits of yours include changing Theatre to Theater, inserting bad wikilinks, etc. I'm reverting to the last good version. If you want to MAKE GOOD EDITS instead of reverting back to a messed up version, feel free. --Cheeser1 (talk) 13:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I removed all the links to alternate pages, no more problem as I think, there should also be no problem with the different types of English.190.140.233.121 (talk) 20:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes there is, and you still just used the "Undo" button instead of making specific meaningful/correct contributions. Please learn how to use Wikipedia before trying to contribute. --Cheeser1 (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Then, point out the problems, I'm not a mind reader, so tell THEM CLEARLY. 201.218.79.101 (talk) 16:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, no? All you've done is shuffle images, misspell words, and insert inappropriate/bad context Wikilinks. --Cheeser1 (talk) 17:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

you can revert the bad grammar, but you can't do the same with images, because they were shuffled to comply with Wikipedia's image policy which clearly specifies that: "No image should be placed in a place where it 'Sandwitches' text". Also I want to ask you, WHAT IS MELICO SALAZAR, a restaurant, a place. My version of the page is much MORE consistent than yours, after all, one image displaces text, the roadside vendors one snadwitches text and I don't know what do you have with changing images, why do you change them, does it bother you?, how? tell me the problem you have, others do not have problem. And again, Escazu and Santa Ana are definitely not part of San José, they are of its metro area, but they are also cities in their own, they shouldn't be included in the Nightlife section.

Also, it is written "Sand Live Bar" not "bar Sand Live". 201.218.79.101 (talk) 21:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Your example belies your inability to speak English correctly. The original version is correct, as would be clear if you quoted the entire sentence. One for example is the bar "Sand Live," which is a massive... Perfect, fluid, native-style English. Stop making changes that have been objected to. These serious problems with your changes outweigh the image placement style issue, which you could fix on its own if you stopped edit warring/reverting. --Cheeser1 (talk) 03:25, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Please also note that you should not ever be switching articles to US English. Costa Rica is not a part of the US. --Cheeser1 (talk) 03:25, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, but this http://www.universal-edu.com/San_Jose.html web article clearly refers to the theater as Theater, NO MORE DISCUSSION. 201.218.79.101 (talk) 20:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

For some reason Cheeser1, you just appear to be completely blind. Read WP:MOS and you'll know that you are disrupting the quality of the article, you act against sources and Wikipedia rules and laws. Also, you ask me what's my problem with the article. Well what's yours?. 201.218.79.101 (talk) 16:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Your edits consist of shuffling around images (which may be fine) coupled with changes to the text that are grammatically incorrect, misspelled, or poorly phrased. You are also changing to US English what is a standard English article, and are making some bad-context wikilinks, both of which (if you actually knew how Wikipedia works) are not appropriate. Continuing to blind-revert back to the version you made, instead of the last good version I am asking you to modify only as appropriate, is vandalism. So stop. --Cheeser1 (talk) 19:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, but note that the National Theatre (Standard English) is spelled in US English, its not appart, but is part of its name. No source for Melico Salazar so that can be passed. I also neutralized the Sand Live thing with no extra words. Feel free to alter the grammar but try to make it as easy to read as possible by those ones not familiarized with British English.

201.218.79.101 (talk) 02:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * That made absolutely no sense. Please try to phrase your comments so that they are, perhaps, not nonsense. The fact that your English is so poor makes me strongly question why you continue to edit war and defy conventions on grammar, English language standards, etc. --Cheeser1 (talk) 07:12, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Man, I'm trying the article to be neutral. I don't care to much about grammar anymore. But you just appear to shuffle the images so the article can look worse. If you say that shuffling images may be fine, why are you so interested on that matter anyway? 201.218.79.101 (talk) 15:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Your edit makes no substantial changes to the article content. It just messes up grammar and links, and shuffles around images. If you want to work on Wikipedia, you're going to have to only make the edits that are agreed upon by consensus. I'm not going to argue which image arrangement is better - your edit, which you have now made what, a dozen times? - is not constructive. It does far more harm than good. I have "reverted to last good version" every time and repeatedly explained the reasons, which you refuse to acknowledge. --Cheeser1 (talk) 17:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I shuffled images according to WP:MOS. However, I give you all the reason when it comes to grammar. I'm trying the article simply to be liked by everyone. What don't you like about the article. After all, NO ONE EVER had problems with the article until you came by. The article must be simple, nicely arranged, detailed and clear in what is what. After all, I was the person who proposed the version of the article you are trying to stay in. It was not until I FULLY UNDERSTOOD Wikipedia that I tried to change it. Just look at articles such as New York City and Paris, or at even Managua and you'll see how pages about cities should look.

And don't try to modify them and force your edits on them too.

201.218.79.101 (talk) 20:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh? Then stop using the "Undo" button. You clearly still don't understand Wikipedia, as you continue to do things like change "Theatre" to "Theater" and make the same changes that are not backed by consensus and in some places just plain wrong. It's not me either, fella, because all I ever did was (like I said) revert to the last good version (not "my" edits at all). You're the one causing issues. --Cheeser1 (talk) 00:25, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, its enought, I think, let's strike a deal for the peace of this article. Submit your complaints and I'll submit mines, then we can have a "fully neutral" version done. 201.218.79.101 (talk) 05:40, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * There's nothing about neutrality going on here. You've mixed a few constructive edits with a bunch of bad grammar, inappropriate conversion to US English, etc. You can't keep jamming that edit in there because it contains big problems. There's no negotiating about how one spells "inhabites." Like I said, continuous edit warring to do things like convert to US English is vandalism. End of discussion. --Cheeser1 (talk) 05:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, then I'm just changing the images. 201.218.79.101 (talk) 05:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No you're not! If you're going to discuss this, at least don't lie. See here. --Cheeser1 (talk) 15:50, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Man I told you that you are also making some grammar errors. The worst of them in the climate section. It was written as "Also very windy which decreases temperature" what is that thing. You said you were reverting to the last good revision. What if you use your perfect english skills and correct the errors you find in the "Last good revision", because they are errors there and you can't deny that.


 * Good god, shut up man. You obviously refuse to read one iota of how Wikipedia works. You don't just keep making the same stupid edits over and over because the old version isn't perfect - your version isn't any better. I give up. Destroy the English language, and take Wikipedia's conventions down with it. --Cheeser1 (talk) 00:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * And you do not understand how WP:CIV works, either. No matter what this editor may say or do, it does not justify an uncivil tirade against a fellow editor.Netkinetic  (t / c / @) 15:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Nightlife
The nightlife section is incomplete, mentioning 4 major locations and detailing only one. i don't know what other locations are, maybe Escazú, Santa Ana, and some other. alf 15:16, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

It also talks almost entirely about Prostitution. I'm sure there is more to San Jose than this! User:Cryocone


 * I moved the nightlife info to the nightlife section. Lagringa 09:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Gay scene
Live and let live??? Do you live here? Costa Ricans are too far from an equalitarian and tolerant culture. Maybe it's more open than other Central American countries, but it doesn't mean that there's not a conservative atittude toward race, religion and sexual preferences.

The gay scene is almost underground. Even if I don't belong into any minority, I can clearly see that. You'll never see homosexual couples kissing or even walking by the hand before 10 pm. Try finding a job stating that you're gay if you still believe there's any tolerance; maybe after 10 pm in some spots in the city the gay community can feel comfortable, but just then. I think 66.134.249.44's edit adds no true information about the city. alf 15:47, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I have removed it. It said '''San Jose is also home to a vibrant gay nightlife scene and is know throughout Central and South America as the gay capital of Central America. Ticos are a friendly, live and let live culture (though some evangelical elements hate this)....pura vida is the national expression, a phrase that is a toast to life.''' It certainly isn't known throughout CA as the gay capital of CA, and alf (who clearly knows what he is talking about) confirms my own albeit brief impressions of San José. Generally CR struck me as a very conservative society, SqueakBox 16:04, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Unnecessary Words On This Page
I took off these words from this page:

CASHMERE MONEY BAGZ==

and

SHILOH BOYZ

They were unnecessary to the article.

I've Taken off "Sara is cool"

Nightlife
A street known as the Calle de la Amargura in San Pedro near the University of Costa Rica, with a wide selection of bars, restaurants and discos. Its proximity to the University and its young, economical inactive students makes this area offer food and drinks for relatively low prices. But beware, pickpockets and low-level criminals roam this place.

I don't know why the "warning" (but beware) needs to be added. It's an article, not a tourist guide or a warning memo. It would be more adequate to say: Pickpockets and low-level criminals are known to roam this place.

fact check please
There seems to be a problem with the density of the city. At 7000+/m2, it would surpass both mexico city and tokyo in density. This exaggerated figure probably is due to taking the population of Greater Metropolitan Area which includes the neighboring counties (e.g. escazu, curridabat, moravia) and applying it to the area of San Jose proper.

Merge
I propose the crime and/or legal prostitution subsections be merged into the main Costa Rica article as it seems to be a more adequate.  LaNicoya   •TALK•  08:47, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I think its better to merge just crime only, since legal prostitution is illegal in other parts of the country. 200.75.250.112 17:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

err
it said "though it wasnamed capital until 1823"

i changed it to "though it was not named capital until 1823"

is that right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flyingidiot (talk • contribs) 13:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Sister Cities?
What is this? What are sister cities? This list of cities requires context, or to people like me who don't know what this means (and I might guess most people don't), this just looks like a random list of cities. --Cheeser1 (talk) 08:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I looked at the article on Managua which, I think, offers an acceptable way of wikilinking to the article on town twinning:
 * "Managua has nineteen sister cities, as designated by Sister Cities International, Inc. (SCI):" (followed by the list of sister cities)
 * We could also link to the article on Sister Cities International and add the external link as a reference. Only problem is, according to the "Sister Cities International" site, San José only has two sister cities — not eight. They are Miami Dade County, Florida and San Jose, California. Gantpupo (talk) 16:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Where did the whole article go?
Hallo? History? Transportation? Sports? Politics? Economy? Anything? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.214.126.166 (talk) 09:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Municipality of San Jose vs. Canton of San Jose
Are the municipality and the canton the exact same entity/body of government, are are these two seperate administrative divisions? If they are one-and-the-same, that needs to be made a note of very early in the articles for both the municipality and the canton. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:31, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyone have any answer to this? I'm seeing 8 districts listed in the infobox, but 11 districts listed for the canton on both the canton's page and here on the city page.  Again, is there a legal distinction (i.e. each having its own mayor, council, etc...) between canton or city or is every "city" in the country simply administered as part of its canton? --Criticalthinker (talk) 16:58, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I have just noticed this, I'm from Costa Rica and this doesn't make sense, the canton and the capital are one and the same, there is no legal distinction as far as I know. I noticed this also with Heredia (canton) and Heredia, Costa Rica. In both cases, they should be merged in my opinion. With the canton pages stating that it includes the 'city' and that San José is the capital city of the country. This section is particularly confusing: "The capital is made up of 5 districts (distritos): Catedral, Carmen, Hospital, Mata Redonda, Merced. And three districts partially: Pavas, Uruca, Zapote."... what? Says who? Added a clarification tag there. Roqz (talk) 01:17, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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 * However as of 13 May 2013 this discussion regarding moving the article is closed. Jooojay (talk) 00:58, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Notable people
I will be adding a small section (blue links only) about notable people. Please feel free to add to it. Thank you. Jooojay (talk) 00:58, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Statistical problem
In a passage about crime, this article reads:

"Criminality, on a national scale, was reduced from 12.5% to a 9.5% (per 100,000 habitants)."

The phrase "per 100,000 inhabitants" makes no sense in the context of percentages. (It would be the same percentages no matter how many inhabitants are being considered.) Also, the time element is missing and the word "a" is inappropriate.

Better would be this:

"Criminality, on a national scale, was reduced from 12.5% annually to 9.5%."

I hesitate to make the change myself because I am not completely certain what the correct statement should be. Also, the kinds of crime included in the statistics (all crimes? or just violent ones?) ought to be mentioned.

Perhaps someone who knows more about these statistics could make the change?Daqu (talk) 23:46, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

history
Calderón Guardia Hospital fire, San José, Costa Rica, 12 July 2005 - 19 people died (from Wikipedia list of disasters. 211.225.33.104 (talk) 12:15, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Timeline of San José, Costa Rica
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Merge with San José (canton)
I would like to propose merging the content of San José (canton) to this article, and delete that other one, the rationale is:


 * While still not stated in either article, San José city is the same as San José canton, by official governmental sources, the difference is the exclusion of a small industrial area in the Uruca district.
 * 2017 Territorial Division Law: División Territorial Administrativa de la República de Costa Rica Decreto Ejecutivo N° 40184-MGP, del 9 de enero de 2017, publicado en el Alcance N° 52, a La Gaceta N° 48 del 8 de marzo de 2017
 * 1980 Executive Decree describing the perimeter: Decreto Ejecutivo 11562 del 27/05/1980
 * By looking at the above cited territorial division law from 2017, the canton itself is awarded the status of city, with each one of its districts being part of the city.
 * This in contrast to the other cantons of the country, where each one has only one cabecera (head) district acting as a city. (There are some pending city→district merges on other regions of the country). Therefore, the whole San José canton as a city and all of its districts are an exclusive case in its status as capital city of the country.
 * This San José, Costa Rica article is the most comprehensive of both, we can move what is missing here, from San José (canton), and delete that one.

So, there is no point in keeping both separate entities when they are the same geographic and legal entity. Counterpoints? --Roqz (talk) 23:19, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

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