Talk:Sandia Cave

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I notice that quoted material was just removed, with edit summary justifying the removal due to the material not being properly cited. I don't mind the article being changed, but want to register that the quoted material was previously cited properly IMHO, when I created the article back in 2008, and that some content might usefully be restored. It seems the source webpage has disappeared or its URL has changed, and/or it seems that subsequent editing messed up the citation.

The original content was sourced from "nhlsum" source, and the article included the following:


 * A statement of its significance in 1961 read:

"Excavations here have yielded information on three distinct prehistoric groups. Situated in Cibola National Forest, the site represents one of the earliest known occupations of the Americas."


 * A recent condition report is:

"Sandia Cave appears to be in satisfactory condition. This natural cave is located in a limestone cliff face above Los Huertas Creek in the Sandia Mountains. The cave was prehistorically occupied and has been intensively excavated. The site is publicly-accessible via a quarter-mile trail and a metal circular staircase leading to the cave entrance. The length of the cave is unknown and the inspection was preformed on the first ten meters of the interior; after this point the cave narrows and artificial lighting is necessary. This site is not at risk from environmental or natural causes. Since the site has been thoroughly excavated, there are no portable artifacts, walls, or fragile components that need to be protected. The greatest threat to this site is the potential for vandalism. The site has experienced heavy vandalism over the past several years. The entrance to the cave is covered in graffiti done primarily with spray paint but markers, chalk, crayons, and etching have also been used. The graffiti also appears on the bars and railings that support the staircase and cage-like entry way. More graffiti is present within the cave but is slightly less dense than at the cave entrance. The ceiling of the cave is covered with a heavy layer of soot from prehistoric occupation and graffiti has been applied to many parts of the soot.


 * There does not appear to be a significant amount of new graffiti within the cave since the last report, although some of the more recent graffiti (possibly within the last year) covers a large area. There are no other changes to the site itself since the last report."


 * It was declared a National Historic Landmark in 1961.

I agree with anyone that the article does not now need such a long quote, but it did serve to provide decent, substantial information for almost a decade. And it was fully proper, being 100 percent public domain material in fact. Some edited-down content, such as a summary of the 2008 risk assessment of the site's condition, might usefully be restored to the article, IMHO. -- do ncr  am  23:59, 14 April 2017 (UTC)