Talk:Sangwara

Removing the previous spammy links doesn't take away from the promotion intent of the article, and the article history shows them anyway. Notability is an issue.Pharmboy 01:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Pharmboy, I am no expert on this subject matter. Therefor I ask you whether some of the content may be useful for the Gabry Ponte atticle that has an expand request. Like you, I do not see the notability of this company/project. gidonb 01:17, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Changed tag to merge
I don't think the article needs to stand alone, and the author removed the spammy sections, so based on gidonb's good idea, I think a compromise to merge the article per his request is best. What I would hope is the original author agrees, and we can just move the content over and improve the other article, allowing the content to serve a better purpose. Pharmboy 01:29, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Pharmboy, thank you for your efforts! gidonb

Merging
I originally made this article and I do not believe that it needs merging, nor do I understand what was suggestive of spam within my links. I can assure you that Sangwara should be a stand alone article just as Eiffel 65 is, Gabry Ponte was a member of Sangwara but he doesn't constitute the whole project, to do that you have to include Joe Fancey, Jeffrey Jey, MTJ Capuano, Claire Thomas, Simone Pastore, and many others. The main reason I did this article is to add to the small pool of information out there about them, I didn't bother trying to salvage the article after it was deemed "spam" since I was days away from completing my website about them but I figured I'd throw out my two cents. You can see that Sangwara was a fairly successful project of BlissCorporation in the late 90s by simply reading about them at my newly finished website, http://www.sangwara.info If you think the articles should be merged then by all means do it but I think it wouldn't make sense. Zacharydy4 03:31, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Even BlissCorporation isn't a wiki article, so it is hard to establish notability by reference of another corporation that isn't referenced and doesn't have a wikipedia article to reference off of. When you create an article, and the only source of information about the article is the website owned by the subject of the article, then you have a problem.  Either it is Conflict of interest or Notability or it is spam via WP:NOT most of the time.  These are established policies.  If you think that the MERGE request is wrong, fine, say so here in talk, and FIX THE PROBLEMS that make the article not meet policy.  Key is 3rd party verification of the article (Sangwara related articles by well known publications, not blogs) and something that backs up the text in the article.  Even half the wikilinks in the article are dead.  Five pillars is a good place to start to explain why this matters.  The tag exists not to kill the article, but to get someone to fix it.  Or merge it if no one will. Pharmboy 12:56, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I personally don't care if it's merged, I've discovered that Wikipedia is harder to do than I previously thought, but please, if it is merged then don't make it seem that Gabry Ponte was Sangwara and leave no mention to anyone else involved in the project. Unfortunately though, little information on Sangwara is available, there's my website and the page at discogs.com, the only "reliable" source that says they were a seperate project is their releases (of which I have 4 out of the 5) Zacharydy4 20:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If you know more about it than we do (likely) then you should do the merge. What we are talking about is policy, not the content.  It would be helpful if you made an entry into the parent article, then this article would be deleted per policy.  This way the information can be seen in the proper context.  People don't ask for merges/deletes to be a pain, it is done to keep wikipedia making sense.  And yes, it is hard sometimes, and there are 1000 rules/policies, or at least it seems that way sometimes.  Pharmboy 20:36, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Merged
I added the information on Sangwara to Gabry Ponte's page, I know it has a lot of red links to BlissCorporation, Worldbus Records, and such but I'll fill all those in soon enough so you can clear the Sangwara page. Zacharydy4 15:46, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I have redirected this page to Gabry Ponte. I think this makes it all much neater and puts the info together better. Pharmboy 16:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)