Talk:Sansa m200

This is my first time creating a Wikipedia page. I don't have a clue what I did wrong, except that I hadn't included a category and had untypical formatting for Wikipedia. Is the page in danger of being deleted?--Ann222 12:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * No, no, you haven;t done anything wrong, your article just needs work. The reason I placed the "cleanup" tag on it was so that it *would not* be proposed for speedy deletion. The title is a bit odd but then I dont know much abotu this subject. Complete your article and when it is done and looks nice and complete, just remove the tag. If it was being considered for deletion, it would say so.


 * Let me know if there is anything that I can do to help. ( A rundhati Bakshi (talk • contribs)) 12:59, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Right now this page reads, to my eyes, more like a user's manual than an encyclopedic description. Without having gone to the Sansa page you reference in the introduction, it's hard for me really get an idea of what a "Sansa m200" is or what I'm supposed to be learning about it.  From what I gather, it's an MP3 player of sorts?  So maybe reading the iPod page would help you get an idea of what the article should look like as far as content and style goes. Dismas|(talk) 13:05, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. You need a good lead in WP:LEAD so the reader will know what this thing is. All I meant to do was to tell you to clean up the article and make it clearer, expand it a littkle. It could be a good article with some work. ( A rundhati Bakshi (talk • contribs)) 13:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks guys. I did explain a little since, though not too much. I don't want to duplicate what's on the Sandisk Sansa page. I'll see what I can differentiate. It was meant as a user manual, BTW. The user manual that ships with the players is supposedly horrible. I've been researching this thing for months. And just a few days prior to actually acquiring it, I wanted to summarize what I've learnt. I'll add more when I've got the player and have figured out what works for me. It's a good player, but so hard to figure out for newbies, some stear clear for that reason alone, which is a shame, when a good wiki page could be all that's needed to avoid the problems.--Ann222 13:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * "It was meant as a user manual"? Maybe you should be writing this for Wikibooks then?  Dismas|(talk) 13:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I doubt it will be that big, even after a few months. I mean, two or three pages printed out? There isn't THAT much to say.--Ann222 13:38, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, but Wikipedia is not a place to publish your own thoughts and analyses. Coming up with a user manual, to me, is original research.  Original research is not allowed at Wikipedia, although it would be at Wikibooks.  I'll use the iPod article as an example.  Nowhere in that article do you find things like what you propose and have already added to this article.  You won't find phrases like "I'd actually consider..."  or detailed instructions on the use of the product.  And the iPod article has been found to be a "good" article as you can see on the talk page for the article.  I realize you have good intentions, although I feel that Wikibooks would be a better place for your research and experience with the device.  Dismas|(talk) 14:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, if I move it, could I still keep the bare bones article, and link to the wikibook page? And what about all the links I've included to Wikipedia. Is there an easy way to transfer those to wikibooks?--Ann222 14:15, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The bare bones article would, I'm sure, be welcome here. And as time goes on maybe someone will improve on it.  Maybe even you.  And you're also more than welcome to link to the Wikibooks article.  As far as linking back to Wikipedia, I don't know how that's done.  I'm just familiar with the project itself, not the actual mechanics of writing an article for Wikibooks.  I'm sure there are people there that would be more than willing to help you as the people who responded to your concerns here have done.  Dismas|(talk) 14:31, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll move the manual part of the article. I found out how you link to Wikipedia. Just add Wikipedia and colon at the very front of the link, and that makes it work.--Ann222 14:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Might want to have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikibooks -- it shows you how to use a graphic to point to Wikibooks . . . makes an attractive little pointer. Great work on the manual byu the way! ( A rundhati Bakshi (talk • contribs)) 04:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)