Talk:Santiago Bernabéu Stadium/Archive 1

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Poorly Written History Section
The standard of the English in the 'history' section is a long way below expected standards on Wikipedia. Could do with being tidied up by a native speaker of English, or at least someone with high-quality English writing skills. 83.100.195.160 (talk) 03:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC) hallo ihr spinner hobby los oder so ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.131.223.214 (talk) 13:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

UEFA 5 star stadium?
See the text here:


 * A new renovation has almost been finished at the moment. This renovation of the east stand has increased the capacity to 80,000 and has made the stadium totally covered.


 * After this renovation (2005) the stadium will receive a 5-star rating of the UEFA which will make the stadium suitable for any European Cup Final in the future.

Is it possible that the five-star list is out of date? I was there on Saturday and the renovation would seem to have been finished, and it is fully covered. The Spanish wikipedia seems to think it has been five stars since the end of 2003. -- Blorg 14:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I've searched the web for various references regarding this stadium being a UEFA 5 star stadium. So far I've found nothing except for various bulletin board postins claiming that this stadium is indeed a 5 star stadium. There is not a shred of evidence of this being the case and I think it would be wise to remove this 5 star rating until some proof on the matter is found. Niall123

It's not true that bernabeu is the only stadium which has hosted all major football events. also the Munich Olympic Stadium has done so, and still exists though Bayern Munich is now using the newly built Allianz Arena. 1974 World Cup Final 1988 European Championship Final 1977,1993,1997 Champions League Final

The Stadio Olimpico in Rome has also hosted all 3. Niall123 23:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Text from the FiFA's official website: "meant that in 2005 the stadium attained 'five-star' status in accordance with UEFA standards.", do you need more evidences of Bernabéu being a 5 star stadium? here is the link http://fifa.com/classicfootball/stadiums/stadium=456/detail.html

Bernabéu pronounced as Berna-BOW
Why do most footballers, pundits, managers, commentators and fans here in England pronounce the stadium name as "The Berna-bow"? How do people even come to the conclusion that it would be pronounced like that? How does ..beu equate to being pronounced as "bow", as we would for Bilbao? Does it sound cooler or something? It just makes them all look ignorant and stupid. I find it really embarrassing that they can't even pronouce names properly from a country as near to us as Spain (there are other exmaples like Tenerife for instance). I've even heard David Beckham pronounce it that way and he plays for Real Madrid!!!
 * How is it supposed to be pronounced? "Ber-na-bay-oo"? PeeJay 23:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The Guardian's "man in spain" Sid Lowe pronounces it "Berna-bow", and he's fluent in Spanish. He even worked as a translator for Beckham, so perhaps Becks picked it up from him. That said, it is incorrect, |as he himself says

"The thing about Spanish is that every vowel gets pronounced (except in certain combinations where they can sound like they are are running together - 'ua' can sound like 'wa', especially after a 'g', for exmple).

"So, the E and the U at the end there are both heard. And the vowel sounds are pretty much as they are in English, just shorter (a = ah, e = eh (NOT ee), i =ee, o = oh, u = oo)."

"The other thing is that the E has an accent on it which doesn't change the sound but makes it the letter that is stressed. So it's Bernabéu.

To put that in a pronounciation - Bernabayoo is basically right, but as the vowel sounds are a bit shorter, I'd prefer: Berna-bEh-oo (without that oooh being elongated)."

But it's not like this is the only foreign word pronounced differently in English.

Illuminattile (talk) 00:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Proposed move of article to Estadio Santiago Bernabéu
What is the general consensus on this? Would it not be better to have the article listed under the stadium's proper name? PeeJay 23:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes you're right. And since you're asking for this, I'd like to add that Bernabeu is a Catalonian surname that doesn't need an accent. I don't know why the Spanish media began to put an accent there, maybe just to make it look Spanish and not Catalan. Escorpión Canalla 18:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Was there ever a discussion for this proposal? --MicroX (talk) 07:33, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Brocken Goal 1. April 1998 Champions League. and 70min delay
did this should by here or somewhere else?

This has to be on the main page it was a Semi Final! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.240.123 (talk) 14:11, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Real vs Borussia Dortmund —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.235.28 (talk) 05:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Snark Removal
Article currently says "The first official match of the Spanish national team in the Santiago Bernabeu was played in the year 1964 (Franco-Stalin)." For the parenthetical historical insult, substitute actual team names from 1964. Or leave out parenthesis entirely. Slangist (talk) 07:07, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Othman Al Zahrani??
Who is Othman Al Zahrani? there is no citation to prove the fact that he "constructed" the stadium, i have searched everywhere and his name is only mentioned here in this wikipedia page. please make sure this wasn't just sheer vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.108.4.112 (talk) 13:02, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Official capacity
The official capacity of the Bernabeu is 81.178. http://www.madrid-tickets.net/stadium.php

Also in this site the capacity is 81.178. 80.354 + 824 ( and not 900.... ) new seats of the 2011. In these 81.178 sets are inclusive of the 4.200 VIP seats. 151.75.119.179 (talk) 22:29, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

lede=pov
+=SOKR — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.246.181.97 (talk) 10:11, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2015
HelloMynameiseditornumber2 (talk) 20:28, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2016
It is mentioned in the article that "El Bernabéu, renamed in honour of their former chairman Rafa Benitez". Guess, that was someone poking fun. Can you please edit the line.

Thanks.

Pranavawiki (talk) 20:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
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 * ✅. Apologies to EvergreenFir – I fulfilled this request without knowing that you had denied it.  Be prosperous!  Paine   00:26, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * My "not done" was because I truly didn't understand the request. No apologies needed whatsoever. Thank you for taking care it though!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 00:31, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Pleasure!  Paine 

Record attendance
What's the source for the claim that 128,000 attended a 1974 match between Real Madrid and Dynamo Zagreb? I'm not seeing that cited anywhere else and I can definitely confirm that Real Madrid did not play Dynamo Zagreb in European competition that year. (A friendly is possible, I suppose, but that 128,000 would show for a friendly against a team from Yugoslavia, doesn't smell right to this lifelong European soccer fan.) I did see here http://www.topendsports.com/world/lists/crowd-largest.htm a crowd of 124,000 cited in a "large crowds" article, for a match I *do* know happened, in the European Cup final against Fiorentina, which "feels" more like a record-setting occasion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vjmorton (talk • contribs) 23:41, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

90,000 spectators that day. Source: http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1974/09/04/pagina-8/996850/pdf.html--83.50.188.242 (talk) 00:43, 29 April 2016 (UTC)--83.50.188.242 (talk) 00:43, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2017
In the renovation section, it says 810,000 instead of 81,000. 106.68.117.123 (talk) 07:58, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Gulumeemee (talk) 09:18, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Additional information of Santiago Bernabeu
Section ideas:

All via its website.

- Restaurants - Events (spaces at both Santiago Bernabeu and Ciudad Real Madrid) - Stores - Link to 3D Virtual Tour Pasz9 (talk) 07:31, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

European Cup finals
Where are the 3 finals of the European Cup (1957, 1969 and 1980) reports in the major games section? - 87.217.213.133 (talk) 06:52, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * No one has added them to the section yet. You can write the content here, and then make an edit request. Gulumeemee (talk) 11:49, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

(Major Games section, add 3 European cup finals and delete Copa del Rey 2013 final, 36 cup finals have been played in the stadium so it's no a remarkable event in its history)

1957 European Cup Final

It was contested between Real Madrid, the champions of Spain and Fiorentina, champions of Italy. In this season 16 teams played for conquest the trophy, Real Madrid won 2-0 in the final after goals from Alfredo Di Stéfano and Francisco Gento in the second half. Was the second consecutive European Cup for Real Madrid after having won his first trophy one year before, in the Parc des Princes against Stade de Reims.

1969 European Cup Final

This year Ac Milan champions of Italy, play against AFC Ajax champions of the Dutch championship, play to determine who would be the champions of Europe. Milan defeated Ajax 4-1 getting his second European championship, Ajax had already made history, being the first Dutch team to reach a final.

1980 European Cup Final

In this final they faced the English Nottingham Forest, current champion of Europe, against Hamburger SV champion of Germany. The match ended with a victory for the English team with a 1-0 result. The new champions of Europe retained the trophy and achiaved his historic second European Cup consecutively.

2010: Champions League Final

A game played between two best teams in Champion's League which consists of group stage and knock-out stage. The Final is played at a different stadium each year. In 2010, FC Bayern Munich, who knocked out Olympique Lyonnais in the semi finals, The German team played against Internazionale who beat FC Barcelona in the semi-finals. Internazionale won 2:0 after 2 goals from Diego Milito. - 87.217.213.133 (talk) 15:37, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: 2010 has already been added. I'll leave it up to other editors to decide what to do with the rest. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:29, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done with copyedits. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:45, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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