Talk:Santigold

Redlinks
If an article is not likely to be created, which I believe to be the case for Stiffed, XXXchange, and Clifford Moonie Pusey, then wikipedia encourages the links to not be made per wp:red. Correct me if I am wrong, but I wouldn't want these links to go on for months without articles.-- travisthurston  +  17:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

GENRE CONFIRNATIONS

http://youtube.com/watch?v=43hom89GpiQ

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/17316664/artist_to_watch_santogold

http://www.myspace.com/santogold

she says new wave, dub and punk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.254.104 (talk) 17:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Of those three, the Rolling Stone link is probably the most valid. Please format the additions so that the genres are keyed to citations (like the other footnotes in the article). Chubbles (talk) 17:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Please note that if you do not do so, and people continue to edit-war over the genres, I'll remove them again. Chubbles (talk) 17:38, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Genres and influences are two separate issues. Other important point : the following terms Punk, New Wave, Post-punk are used for bands of the late 70's and 80's. So, one doesn't use them for a music created in 2008. Influences that new-wave bands had on her can be mentioned in the main article, it would be relevant, but one doesn't have to place them next to genres. Carliertwo (talk). 15:56, 30 may 2008

Yeah when I think of post-punk music, I think of someone appearing on a hip-hop soundtrack, and collaborating with Ashlee Simpson, Christina Aguilera and every rapper on earth. Seriously, this chick has nothing to do with those genres. Like Carlietwo said, these are labels for artists from the 70s and 80s, artist who were coming from a totally different place. They were very time specific and time relevant. You could call her a revivalist, and even then that's stretching. She's a just another (shameless) cash-in on the currently hot indie trend, namedropping same the same artists nearly all other indie artists do. She's as post-punk as Papa Roach is thrash. 74.69.64.52 (talk) 02:30, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I have to say that I enjoy how NOTHING in the article bothers to explain what aspects of her music reflect post-punk and New Wave (or even describes anything about her sound). To the extent it goes there's a little paragraph citing her namedrops and a few artists she's been compared to, as if that's (the word of a few people) so reliable or descriptive in anyway. Yet we get so many more mentions of rappers and pop/dance artists throughout the article that someone who's never listened to her couldn't possibly come away with the impression of a post-punk/New Wave artist (not helped by obvious fact that she didn't record any music before 1989).

-Oh, btw, I actually just CHECKED (yep, who knew people did that) the page that the genre section was linked to, that was supposed to support the claim to her being post-punk? I found an album review which said nothing, NOTHING to support the case of this labeling. The term wasn't mentioned, no artists related to the genre were mentioned unless you count a passing mention of her sampling of a B-52s song. Literally nothing beyond that. What a Goddamned joke. Incidentally, I also checked with the AllMusic, Rate You Music, and Last.FM websites and alas, it doesn't show up under her genre on any of them. I'm not even surprised. 74.69.64.52 (talk) 03:20, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Capital letters in musical genres
Per this, musical genres should not be capitalized. I have reverted the changes made to capitalize them. --Kakofonous (talk) 13:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Santogold band members
Now that she has a band can we have a section for the band members if people know the names of the members?
 * Vocals - Santi White
 * Drummer - Terry Campbell
 * Guitarist -
 * Bassist -
 * Keyboardist -
 * Backup singer 1 -
 * Backup singer 2 -

--Sugarcubez (talk) 09:11, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Images
I went on Flickr and uploaded a bunch of free-license images to Commons: commons:Category:Santogold. There are some pretty good shots, including one of one of her backup singers, that might be useful in this article.

Image:Santogold2.jpg, our current infobox image, I thought was a little dark and hard-to-see, so I replaced it with Image:Santogold at Eurockéennes de Belfort 2008 02.jpg. That change has since been reverted, but I thought I should bring to everybody's attention that there are now some other shots to choose from if you wish. Dylan (talk) 17:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Birthplace?
I see statements around the web that she was born in Brooklyn.KD Tries Again (talk) 15:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)KD Tries Again

Hyperbole / POV
"Brooklyn pop sensation Santogold has emerged as the 2008 musical season's new light."

What is the duration of the "musical season"? Does that mean anything?

Also, this is much more PR than NPOV.

Our Retired Explorer (talk) 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Semi-protection
For a week while authors achieve consensus on genres for this artist. If in doubt, the Reliable Source noticeboard will advise, but this edit-warring is unhelpful. -- Rodhull andemu  20:32, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've added some genres according to the Rolling Stone source that is currently there. The All music source just linked to the main page, so was rather useless and that monkey source Jamalar added is absolutely unsuitable. If Jamalar would like to add his/her thoughts here? — Realist  2  21:15, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

New monicker
This is bound to be contested, so let's please hash it out here. Any proposed changes to the lead are welcome and one is surely bound to gain consensus and remain accurate. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 21:51, 12 February 2009 (UTC) (P.S. for the lulz ˉˉanetode╦╩ 21:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC))

Rant
Santi White has taken the name santo gold from santo rigatuso, the true owner of santo gold since the early to mid 80s. (www.santogold.com) See keywords santogold sued by santo gold or santogold name change on the Internet. After santo rigatuso's lawyer's had served Santi White and several of her record labels with cease and desist letters, she changed her stage name to santigold which was not acceptable by rigatuso,s lawyer's or by mr. rigatuso. (See L.A Times interview with Jill at The Lustigman Law Firm NYC last month.) Wikipedia is suppose to be a true gathering of real History and not s gsthering of Imposters but instead has relied on Internet confusion to substanciate White,s existance as santogold or santigold, when it is in direct conflict with their own copyright rules. Myspace has already taken action and has removed her as santogold. One of her record labels has settled and agreed to destroy thousands of her albums. When does wikipedia become a legitimate Internet sight that researches the facts correctly and stops safe havens for episodes like this?. from.
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not an advertising website. Santigold used to be known as Santogold, and is still more commonly known as Santogold, this is a fact, and it is true weather she owns the copyright to the name or not. We're not running the Ministry of Truth here. --LeakeyJee (talk) 02:22, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Santigold has had charting songs on several charts in the US (she charted on the Billbord Modern Rock Tracks chart, which ranks the Top 40 most popular alternative rock songs in the country) and in the UK (UK Top 75). Santigold - an alternative rock musician - is not trying to be the infomercial jeweler/80's cult icon and the only thing she has in common with him is a name both shared for a span of a few years. Also, those copyright rules on Wikipedia are not about who has an article on Wikipedia, but how Wikipedia edits are written. Those who violate the GFDL are editors adding unsourced or hurtful information, not the subjects themselves. I hope this clarifies things. Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 16:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you two realize that that unsigned post was by Santo Rigatuso himself? It chills me how much of a sleaze bag this guy is. Wikipedia's been damn kind listing him here as an "Infomercial Jeweller" rather than the scam artist we all know he was and is (interestingly someone seems to have removed the section on the charges against him from the Blood Circus page). (Albert Mond (talk) 20:09, 6 April 2009 (UTC))

the Next M.I.A.?
There are some wondering whether she'll be the next M.I.A..
 * Will Santogold Be the Next M.I.A.?
 * "Those lyrics—from the M.I.A.-aping track "Creator," off of Santogold's self-titled debut—smack of wearisome indie-hop posturing"
 * next M.I.A.?
 * "When Santogold first showed up on many people’s radars at the end of last year with double A-side ‘Creator’ / ‘L.E.S. Artistes’ she presented something of a dilemma – the first cut was a club-bound behemoth which sounded like sawn-off rayguns set to malfunction, but which nonetheless invited accusations that the Philly debutante was treading a suspiciously M.I.A.-lite artistic path...But even on those diminished terms, Santogold doesn’t quite succeed. Unsurprisingly ‘L.E.S. Artistes’ has been chosen as lead single and introduction to the album - the track is pure second-album Yeah Yeah Yeahs, solid enough but where that record gave the impression of restrained power lurking beneath the studio-bound polish, this is more a clinical pop facsimile. It’s a feeling that recurs throughout, from the clearly M.I.A.-indebted likes of ‘Creator’ and ‘Starstruck’, to the honeyed, Corrs-do-the-Pixies sheen of ‘Lights Out’ and ‘You’ll Find A way’ which sounds like The Police-lite, and I’m still not convinced that’s even possible. Tunes-wise there’s some strength in depth here but it’s telling that, in spite of the lip service being paid to various left-of-centre influences, Santogold feels a strangely conservative listen, in danger of satisfying neither fans of M.I.A.’s wild stylistic forays nor the bubblegum masses thirsting after their latest dose of content-free self-assertion."
 * "But in the wake of the critical favorite M.I.A., a new crop of young, multicultural, female hip-hop acts is causing a stir on the Internet and in indie-label conference rooms. There’s Kid Sister, a cheeky, charismatic rapper from Chicago who recently released a video featuring Kanye West; Amanda Blank, a nasty-mouthed M.C. from Philadelphia who is associated with the hipster male hip-hopper Spank Rock; and Santogold, a new-wavey singer and dub-style rapper from Brooklyn who toured with Bjork last fall. Though their styles vary from agile wordplay to club-ready choruses, what unites them is their fresh, left-of-center enthusiasm; their bold attitudes; and an expansive approach to female sexuality"
 * And like Ronson, Diplo also has a keen ear to the ground for slightly off-kilter pop sensations - it was Diplo’s collaboration with songstress M.I.A. on her singles “Bucky Done Gun” and “Paper Planes” (yea, you can blame Diplo for that one) and the fantastic Piracy Funds Terrorism, Vol. I mixtape that really shot him to fame...
 * "Santi White has been hailed as visionary, creative, genre-bending, and inventive – America's answer to M.I.A. – but despite Santogold's bloggorific buzz, her eponymous debut, while diverse, is no revolution."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.41.113 (talk) 22:16, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * She's still being called out as a poor man's M.I.A.. 130.88.77.238 (talk) 13:22, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I heard that she don't like M.I.A. but M.I.A. dont care, which upsets Santigold more or sumthin. But shes an ok singer though so I don't know, she has good songs.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.243.142 (talk) 19:28, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Her new album is really good, lots of different styles. Jay-Z called it a revolution, maybe this can be included.130.88.243.225 (talk) 15:15, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I really like her and her music — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.188.219 (talk) 20:23, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The Keepers
There's a lot of talk about this song and there's a lot of references and perspectives that would be interesting to add, such as the term "gatekeepers" and our recent social media awareness of things by way of "-gate." Just leaving this here as a reminder to myself and others that this would be a great article to turn into a stub and continue work on from there. Let me know what you think or any suggestions, comments, questions, or problems you may have with this suggestion. Keep It Briezy (talk) 21:54, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Santigold
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Santigold's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "discogs": From Makeba Riddick: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Makeba+Riddick From Santogold (album):  From John Hill (record producer):  From Hezekiah (rapper):  From Giant Step:  From Spank Rock:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 21:29, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Legacy
Santigold - L.E.S. Artistes was a featured song in the Band Hero music game soundtrack. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Band_Hero#Soundtrack SquashEngineer (talk) 16:09, 6 September 2019 (UTC)