Talk:Saosin

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This page was voted on for deletion at Votes for deletion/Saosin. The consensus was to keep it. dbenbenn | talk 17:50, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Saosin pronounciation. The band was named by Anthony Green, he Americanized the chinese word Xiao Xin, which is pronounced Shaow Sheen, he pronounced it Say Oh Shin, since he left the band the pronounciation Say Oh Sin has become more popular. I say its perfectly ok to pronounce it either way, or does anyone think otherwise? Should it give both pronounciations? Reiver 03:59, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Why not just put the above information in the article? It's relevent and interesting... Halo 12:03, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Saosin
The correct pronunciation is say-ocean. See for youself:

What does their name mean, and how is it pronouced?

Thanks to nailed shut, here is a quote from former singer Anthony: "It’s pronounced SAY-OCEAN. And it’s a Chinese proverb from the 15th and 16th centuries. It means “small heart”. Fathers used to marry off their youngest son's for money and used to tell them that they weren’t marrying for love, that their wife doesn’t matter. She could die at anytime so don’t get attached. They had to love with caution and raise their sons to be cold and unfeeling as well. I found it in the 8th grade and loved it, I used to name all my old bands that and write songs about it.

See the rest here, on the offical Saosin forums.

It is important to note however, that the Chinese word from which 'saosin' was derived, 'xiao xin' is not pronounced as 'SAY-OCEAN'. Also, the Chinese words 'xiao xin' do not have any particular proverbial connotations in daily conversation where it simply means the need to take be careful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.174.61 (talk) 16:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Origin of name
I believe the Chinese characters for the name are "小心" if anyone wants to check it out (the characters mean small and heart).

Also, someone keeps changing the article saying that the name is pronounced shao-shing. This is not true as saosin is pronounced in the cantonese dialect not mandarin.

actually, saosin is nothing like "小心" in cantonese, which is siu sum. also, "saosin" is not a proverb. it just means be careful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Themoliugecko (talk • contribs) 07:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

"Sound Raptors" and upcoming album
As stated by Beau, "Sound Raptors" isn't the name of the new album and "Shh" isn't the name of the new song off the album. Cerule 19:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of article - Cove Reber
Okay I wouldn't normally state straight out opinions on Wikipedia stuff, but whoever deleted Cove's article should go die. To delete it because he isn't "notable" enough is unbelievable... He is the frontman for a signed band that has a huge following. Some fans, such as myself, are quite big fans of Cove and want to know more on him. Where else can we go but Wikipedia to find an encyclopedic article on him?

Deleting wikipedia articles is like burning books in a library. Don't do it unless there is damage being done by keeping it or the article is just a bunch of wrong information, you morons.--Jpagel 16:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Citations needed
Anyone have sources for the discography? namely
 * 1) Acoustic Demo demo (Came with early copies of Translating the Name)
 * 2) Instrumental Demo (2004) - No Vocals
 * 3) Capitol Records Demo (2005)--User:Jpagel 20:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I may be mistaken, and, generally, I am, but I believe that a limited number of copies of [i]Translating the Name[/i] included the acoustic accompaniment disc when the band was on its first Warped Tour. I'm not sure about the instrumental demo; it sounds like something the band used for Cove (I have it on my PC). As for the Capitol Records disc, it leaked onto the Internet when the band sent it to Capitol before they were signed. I don't really know how to prove those things, but I know the last one is true for sure, since I downloaded the Capitol demo the day it leaked. Wlmaltby3 04:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The Acoustic sampler was included only in pre-ordered copies of Translating the Name, it wasn't sold together on Warped. It is just a burned disc with the two tracks on it. --Sammyrenee (talk) 18:51, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

There are actually multiple instrumental demos, i have some from 2003, and before anthony green was in the band. There isn't any real way to track those demos, the band just records a lot. Beau Burchell is a quite well known producer (he's done bands like Name Taken, From First to last, the Bled) and has a quite good home studio. If i'm not mistaken Saosin's e.p.s come from his own studio.

I don't know how to cite properly and don't want to mess it up trying but the fifth point in trivia says it needs citation, those quotes can be found in the interview here: http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=164684. Those quotes are about halfway down the page.

Promotional Fans
Is that really an important thing to put on the main article?--Jpagel 15:15, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

No. It has no significance to the page. It should be deleted.

Albums
Anybody ever notice the album art has a pattern?

Translating The Name: White

Self Titled EP: Black

Self Titled Full Album: White

S/T Limited Edition: Black Coincedence or not?

Anyways, rock on. Saosin is a great band, with either Anthony or Cove on vocals.

Yeah, It might be that the EPs and promos are black, and the full albums are white. If this goes back to the Chinese culture (where they got the name Saosin from) it's probably a reference to Yin and Yang. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.57.228.34 (talk) 17:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Parental Explicit? Confused...
I don't understand how their new 2006 self-titled release has anything with explicit content. Could it be that the label included it to generate higher sales? Anyone see anything in the lyrics that anyone could find inappropriate to allow a toddler to listen to? --NinjaJew 12:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

They do that only on the DVD/CD copy (I purchased it) because on the DVD there is some language (Shit, Fuck... the usuals). The regular copy has no such label.

Genre
For the record, Saocore was an obvious joke to whoever took it seriously as the genre. Ambrosia- 19:28, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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are they a Punk Rock band? cause their music sound rawish to me.

Merger proposed (band members)
The result was merge Beau Burchell and Chris Sorenson into Saosin. --B. Wolterding 17:02, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I propose to merge the content of Chris Sorenson and Beau Burchell into here, since these people do not meet the notability criteria for musicians.

The band Saosin may pass the criteria in WP:MUSIC; but that does not imply that each band member should be covered in an own article. A separate article for a band member would require that he meets the criteria in WP:MUSIC or WP:BIO individually, independent of Saosin; for example, if he has released several albums as a solo artist, or similar. That does not seem to be the case here.

While this applies in principle to all band members, I would like to sort things out for Chris Sorenson and Beau Burchell first, because these articles have been marked with notability concerns for a long time (since October 06). In order to avoid deletion of these articles, I propose to merge their content here (although much of it is in fact already contained here), and place a redirect.

Please add your comments below; discussion will be open for at least 5 days. Proposed as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 11:57, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge no content in either article that isn't already in this one, the individual members don't meet WP:BAND.Garrie 22:44, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Ase nine  (talk) (contribs)  22:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Second album
The information about the second album is lacking lots of information. Does anyone have some information they can add and source? Gladiator Knight 16 (talk) 05:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Cove Leaving
Your source is horribly off. Their last news update was on March 30th. No where does it state that Cove is leaving. Ive even checked the saosin forums as extra precaution. If there was anything about it, it would of been posted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.156.222.164 (talk) 05:46, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Post hardcore
I have their first cd and it is not post hardcore. Did their later stuff get heavier or is this a mistake? DCcomicslover (talk) 22:58, 6 November 2010 (UTC)DCcomicslover

Yes. The song "I Keep My Secrets Safe" among a few others, include screaming. And either way, the genre post-hardcore isn't dependent on screaming or being "heavy" or anything like that. Post-hardcore refers to an experimental type of rock music that draws influence from older hardcore punk. The band is certainly post-hardcore. --  ♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫    ... (Talk)   19:57, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Section CLEAN UP!
Alright, the last section in the History portion of this page needs attention. There are FAR too many giant quotes, and the entire section simply discusses an argument over whether or not Tilian Pearson is the new singer. It's ridiculous. --  ♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫    ... (Talk)   19:57, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree. There are way too many quotations, and not enough paraphrasing. It would suffice to say that the singer was kicked out because of his poor performance, and his inability to counter it. --65.100.124.215 (talk) 16:53, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

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A.I. generated text
Seems that the article was rewritten with A.I. being used, in particular right before the "Reunion with Cove" section there's a paragraph of text that isn't related to the article in any way and appears to be text FROM the A.I. model that was included by accident. Does Wikipedia now accept articles written by an A.I. or is it still strictly human? Shfydgi (talk) 22:43, 7 March 2024 (UTC)