Talk:Saracens F.C.

International Relations
Just found this on the Newcastle falcons page, if true then presumably we are no longer the only club to have toured Japan.

In August 2005 Falcons toured Japan pre-season. They beat NEC Green Rockets easily but lost to a fired-up Toyota Verblitz. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.219.218 (talk) 03:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

That Song!
I've not heard it being sung either - but I have heard people talking about it second hand, so I guess I whoever added it must have had some basis for putting it on!

DuSanne 16:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Traditional location
Where was Bramley Road? Hawkestone (talk) 01:43, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Recentism
I've tagged the history section as such because it's very lopsided. The 12 years of the professional era are given vastly greater coverage than the club's first 100 years, which only cover a handful of paragraphs. Dancarney (talk) 08:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Largely because it is a lot easier to find recent history than stuff that happened decades ago on the net.GordyB (talk) 09:40, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's amazing the attention what a win in the H-Cup brings :), Can i suggest that the professional era section should be spun of into History of  Saracens F.C. by season and then give an overview in the professional era of 95 to current Gnevin (talk) 20:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Origin Of Name
It's my understanding that "Saracens" is an old term for believers of Islam. A quick search reveals that the word stems from the word "easterners." Does anyone know the origins of the name? Ain (talk) 21:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Islamic?
The name as well as the logo seems to have an islamic theme. Is there anything to it? Pass a Method  talk  21:04, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I think the name simply came from opposing their neighbour team and arch foes, who were called 'The Crusaders'. Saracens (son's of Syrians) were the enemies of the Crusaders during the battles of the Crusades. Just a hunch, but may be they were named Saracens to annoy their neighbours. EddyJawed  talk  21:04, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Updating 2011/2012 seasons and 2012/2013 season pre-season info
Does anyone have the exact statistics easily available, I've been a strong sarries fan for 12 years, but I need some good statistics sheets (wins and losses and points against whom throughout the season, not just the final points of the season) - if someone can drop a few links to good places here I'll do the looking through them and typing up.

Cheers Nosebagbear (talk) 20:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Notable Former Players
Is there a good reason why the likes of Michael Lynagh, Philippe Sella and Jannie De Beer are missing from the list? Personally, I would include Brendan Daniel (NZ) as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.136.77 (talk) 23:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

PS Scrub the question as far as Lynagh and Sella are concerned (the reason for their absence is now obvious.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.136.77 (talk) 16:55, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Allianz
What with the published info (as a secondary source, the massive planning permission which describes everything is with the council's published documents) and virtual tour there should be enough for a good length, decent paragraph describing the new stadium, since it is rather crucial part of Sarries - or are we waiting until we move in to do it?

I can freely assist (at least in a week's time I can), but would like others' view on it

Nosebagbear (talk) 11:24, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Palmerston Road, Walthamstow?
Was Saracens' first home ground at Palmerston Road, Walthamstow? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 17:57, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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Did Doug Yeabsley play for Saracens/Harlequins?
Please chime in at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rugby_union --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 15:43, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Saracens_F.C.
All former Saracens players are notable. The 100 club section stands up to scrutiny, but not this. It's POV. I propose to scrub it and replace with a link to the Category, which should hold all former Saracens players. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 21:13, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

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Move to Saracens R.C. ?
It might of been called Football Club many years ago, but now the club is just registered as Saracens Ltd, Govvy (talk) 13:52, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It's registered name with the RFU is Saracens Football Club, what the company that own's the club is called is immaterial.Skeene88 (talk) 17:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You might as well ignore that, I spoke to the club secretary who explained a few things to me! Govvy (talk) 17:20, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Rename Saracens Men or reorganise pages ?
Saracens use their name for several teams (Academy, Men, Storm, Women, Mavericks). The team mentioned in this article is called Saracens Men. The term Saracens can be used as the short form for all five teams., CallumJapan (talk) 11:20, 22 August 2019 (UTC
 * Article would be better to reorganise into a few pages and that rename wouldn't be appropriate here. Govvy (talk) 09:31, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * This article is about the club founded in the 19yh century, the women's side is notable in it's own right and shares a name but little else. The Mavericks are a netball side that shares some branding and no history at all. The Storm are the reserves and not notable in their own right, a section on this article is appropriate for them.Skeene88 (talk) 17:20, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Journalistic
Much of the article seems more journalistic than encyclopedic, especially indicated by "Alas" in The Courage leagues. Mcljlm (talk) 23:28, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * "Alas" deleted. Mcljlm (talk) 01:24, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Current standings section
I've blanked this section as the long-term consensus on the project was that these sections add unnecessary clutter to club pages. Understand many URC teams still have them but all were removed from Prem teams and I think that should stay. Skeene88 (talk) 10:38, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Splitting proposal
I propose that the section about notable players be split into a separate page called List of Saracens F.C. players selected for international rugby or List of Saracens F.C. records and statistics. LouisOrr27 (talk) 20:46, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Agree. Detail and data is good enough for own article while this is becoming overcrowded now.Skeene88 (talk) 08:22, 19 October 2023 (UTC)