Talk:Sarah Joy Brown

The Sopranos?
This article says she appeared on The Sopranos as a guest star, but I couldn't find a reliable source that supports this factoid. There's no mention of The Sopranos on her Imdb profile, and furthermore, I don't remember seeing her on the Sopranos even though I was a fan. Which leads me to think the Sopranos credit is a natural mistake because Sarah Brown is a character in the iconic Broadway show Guys and Dolls. This role is typically played by a soprano. The musical was based on a Damon Runyon short story called The Idyll of Miss Sarah Brown. Thoughts?Reelm (talk) 07:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Sarah Levy
I don't find a source for her name being changed to Levy. I see she had a child by a guy named Levy, but not that they ever got married. So why does the infobox say she's named Levy? Leofric1 (talk) 16:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Since it appears that it was vandalized in a series of edits by an anonymous user with a history of less than forthright edits, I'll be removing those changes. Leofric1 (talk) 16:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

some one has said that she will be cast in in DOOL Days of our lives. And she willed be paired of with Brady. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.1.25.71 (talk) 22:18, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Birthday
Someone removed the Birthday which was listed as February 18th, 1976 but was uncited. I corrected it back but forgot to add my update comment. Birthday added back in...sans year. Cited reference from Official Sarah Brown website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.2.233.234 (talk) 00:44, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I have removed the IMDb.com reference to the actress's birthdate because though IMDb has much factual information, it is technically unreliable (and has been established to be so) because of the fact that it is user-updated, and additions are checked for blatant vandalism and factual errors but not literally verified. Brown's birthdate listed there may very well be correct, but per WP:BLP, sourcing of facts in biographical articles is especially essential. Many bio articles do currently list birthdates without sources, but none of them would withstand a challenge. Especially in the case of an actress, this is sensitive info.


 * I've also removed the Nationmaster.com reference; if you look carefully, Nationmaster is one of the many sites which simply copy a Wikipedia article and repost it. The Nationmaster page on Brown is just a slightly earlier verson of this article. And for the record, it is the responsibility of the editor adding information to back it up, not necessarily an editor who is challenging it. Finding sources for birth dates can be difficult, and frankly, they're not really essemtial info in an article like this.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 20:18, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll just post another source then. It really sounds as if you have an ulterior motive with this article, and the hiding of the actress' birth year.  The "official site" for the actress may very well, according to your interpretations, be cited as an unreliable source.  It is most likely written and updated by a fan or publicist/agent, etc... and thus biased towards her.  For some reason the website omits the birth year which has little effect on the actress rather than the ridiculous social stigma that is attached to the overcritical and unrealistic public.  It is a birth year; if you are going to source a birth day from an "official" website that omits the birth year, the reasonable thing would be to find another source for the birth year.  And the fact that every site which list her birth year as 1975 (and the presumption that every site's information comes from Wikipedia is ridiculous), makes a pretty substantial point for the argument that she was, in fact, born in the year 1975.  The article is a biography and biographies include birth years.* M ♦  ANDERSON  ♦ 198  20:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Other credible sources include TV Guide.com, tv.com and others. I can say with much certainty that these are reliable sources (and found quite easily).* M ♦  ANDERSON  ♦ 198  20:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Ulterior motive? Give me a break. You're the one with the desperate need to have the birthdate included at all costs. Thank you for finding a reliable source for her age; as I noted, I wasn't doubting the date as much as challenging it, which is all within policy. I'm not saying every site is derived from Wikipedia, but when do you a Google search on many topics, several sites obviously copied from Wikipedia (identical text) will usually come up. And I would actually guess that many sites listing her age actually got it from IMDB, which is much-used. And that is called "fruit form a poisoned tree." As a test, I challenge you to choose a minor performer with little credits at IMDb and add a fake birthdate. If it a reasonable one, it will be posted to the site within weeks, true or not. And you must be new to the internet if you think that common sites don't just copy what they see on other ones and accept it as fact. The fact that 1975 is "everywhere" means nothing if there is no indication where the information is from. But certainly if a reputable site/publication which is trusted to check its facts like TV Guide notes information, it is reliable. Hopefully you can see my point.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 20:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Sarah Brown vs. Sarah Joy Brown?
Do you think we should move the page from Sarah Brown (actress) to Sarah Joy Brown? In a lot of material, she's referred to as Sarah Joy Brown or Sarah J. Brown. She even states it in interviews. In both General Hospital and The Bold and the Beautiful opening credits, the "J" has been used in some way. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 17:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Requested move 1

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The result of the move request was: not moved. No consensus to move, and the case for the move is based on her preferred name and does not address the question of the common name. Andrewa (talk) 12:12, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Sarah Brown (actress) → Sarah Joy Brown – Sarah credits herself as Sarah Joy Brown in interviews, as well as in publications. It's her WP:COMMONNAME and should be moved to such a page. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 16:44, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose I agree that WP:COMMONNAME is the relevant policy here but reach the opposite conclusion based on evidence. 306 Google Books results vs. 10; and 389 News Archive results vs. 21. If you restrict the results to the last two years you get a similarly wide disparity.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:10, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
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Requested move 2

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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 16:46, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Sarah Brown (actress) → Sarah Joy Brown – The discussion immediately above ignores what I consider to be the most relevant guideline: "If it exists, choose an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title" (WP:NATURAL). That is to say, if we can write a title without a parenthetical, we should of course do that. Use of parentheticals is a practice peculiar to Wikipedia and not found in other reference works. "Sarah Joy Brown" appears to be the form the subject herself prefers, judging from "the official sarah joy brown website". See also Soap Opera Digest. I get 919 post-2000 GBook hits for actress Sarah-Brown General-Hospital -llc, 1,090 for actress Sarah-Joy-Brown general-hospital -llc. Kauffner (talk) 10:31, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Survey

 * Weak support -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:14, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak support I wouldn't have heard of her but for her namesake, but if the middle name is standard use in modern sources then we should reflect that. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:54, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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"Sarah Brown"
The usage of "Sarah Brown" is under discussion, see talk:Sarah Jane Brown -- 65.94.171.225 (talk) 06:51, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Let's just give it a rest. This one in particular is very frequently credited, exactly, as "Sarah Joy Brown", even if sometimes also credited simply as "Sarah Brown". The move to Sarah Joy Brown is this a completely routine WP:NATURAL move.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  10:20, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

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