Talk:Sarah Vaughan

There is a problem with one of the sections
I don't know how to fix it but there's a bunch of nonsense inserted into one section, whose lead heading is also now missing its styles markers...108.20.41.15 (talk) 19:09, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

I'ts here: ===Stardom and the Columbia years: 1948–1953===he booboo on the tub and had a bad hair day now they makin him mad by sayin it alot Could someone please fix it? thanks--108.20.41.15 (talk) 19:10, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I removed the crap, but it's easy for anyone to do, just click on edit and remove any unwanted nonsense. TheRetroGuy (talk) 20:24, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Albums
I added all the albums.SmokeyTheFatCat 21:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Bisexuality?
I have been a Sarah Vaughan fan for about 20 years and have always believed that she enjoyed relations with her own sex despite her four marriages. Many of the great women singers did: Bessie Smith, Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald etc. However it not occurs to me that I have not a scrap of evidence for this. Google reveals nothing either. SV kept her private life but that she passed could the truth be told? Anybody know anything about this?SmokeyTheFatCat 21:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, well-hidden bisexuality would not be considered encyclopedic. Cf with well-hidden heterosexual trysts. For instance, Benny Goodman's rumored affair with Billie Holiday is only marginally encyclopedic, Ella Fitzgerald's rumored affair with Vido Musso (or is it Babe Russin) isn't encyclopedic. --SeanO 23:05, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Um, Maybe because there weren't any?


 * Since writing the above I have discovered that this is all rubbish. Apologies everyone.  SmokeyTheCat    •TALK•  22:20, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Singing with Charlie Parker
Do any recordings exist of these sessions? Anyone know?SmokeyTheFatCat 20:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

You might look around in Parker collections [such as this] rather than in Sarah Vaughan collections. Grouse lists her as recording four sides with Gillespie/Parker in 1945 for the long-defunct Guild label: "Lover Man", "What More Can a Woman Do?", "I'd Rather Have a Memory Than a Dream" and "Mean to Me". --Michaelminn 16:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Not a jazz singer as such
SV sang pop, bossa nova etc. She hated being called a jazz singer so I have deleted the single word 'jazz' of the opening of the article. Is Wiki going to respect her memory by giving her the title she would have prefered? SmokeyTheCat 09:42, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * These genres can be troubling, Frank Sinatra was a pop singer before rock and roll, now considered a traditional pop singer, yet I have seen his genres described as 'big band' or 'swing'! With Sass, every biography, criticism or online resource refers to her as a 'jazz singer'. She worked with the greatest jazz musicians, scatted, largely perfomed works from the great american soongbook and bossa nova is often described as 'Brazilian jazz'. Wiki is a collaborative project and I think that it owes no ones memory. Ella Fitzgerald lied about her birthdate, so should it have been changed in her article? Gareth E Kegg 12:40, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, fair enough my friend. SmokeyTheCat 13:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

In addition, it would be more accurate to describe Sarah's vocal range as that of a coloratura (notes sung as low as Eb, one octave below middle C and as high as Bb, two octaves above middle C). As much as I would like own range to be described as such, only male voices can be described with the adjectives baritone, tenor and bass. Apologies to any fellow female vocalists that I may have offended.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.115.108.103 (talk) 18:42, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Personal Life
Why is there a disputed tag on this in the article? No-one seems to dispute this here.  SmokeyTheCat   •TALK•  18:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Albums
The 'Selected Albums' section is now more like a complete discography. Anyone mind if I change the header to say this?  SmokeyTheCat   •TALK•  06:18, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I did that.

Does anyone know of the album mentioned here 'We Three' (with Dinah Washington and John Williams) ? The link takes one to a Patti Smith album! Any information anyone?  SmokeyTheCat   •TALK•  06:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Two Death Sections
There are two Death sections here. I deleted the second one as it was mostly cited as need references anyway. Just being a little bold today... Airproofing (talk) 23:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Father's Name?
It says:

"Sarah Vaughan's father, Asbury "Rat Fool" Vaughan, was a carpenter [...] Her mother, Ada Vaughan, was a laundress [...] Jake and Ada Vaughan migrated to Newark from Virginia..."

So was he Asbury or Jake? Ot is Jake a maternal uncle, maternal gratndfather?

And why does it matter that some people may have called this anonymous (even here) father "Rat Fool"?? How is that relevant if there is no article aboutt hat person? People have tens of nickknames, some offensive, but in an article about their children this is hardly relative to anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.200.65.108 (talk) 00:26, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Parents?
How come this article doesn't have any info about who her parents were? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.252.183.253 (talk) 17:18, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That section was removed without explanation earlier this year. I've reinstated it. Thanks for drawing it to our attention.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:52, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Image
I'd like to try to get a Featured Picture of Vaughan. Here are the options, in which are included the current lead image:

I think the current lead is the most dynamic, but a couple of the others might show her better. I can do two if desired; the Gottlieb images are not that hard of restorations. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)


 * That's a great idea. Number three is very cute, but the first one is sublime.Gareth E Kegg (talk) 10:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a long enough article for two. Hell, if the referencing could be fixed up, this would easily merit GA, and would be a good candidate for FA. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:55, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Game on. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 17:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The first one (the current main image) is uploading now. I think you'll be very happy. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:26, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Going to finish the restoration of image #2 (well, #3 in the list) before going for FPC, though. Since it's definitely at Café Society, I've put a rough version into the article at the point Café Society is discussed. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:59, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * And there we go. Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Set:Sarah Vaughan. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:30, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow. I'm really going to slog over the article now! Thank you so much. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 20:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Both are now Featured pictures, meaning the article will eventually be linked from the main page on the day they display. That could be quite some time off, though, barring a big anniversary. Might provisionally pencil it in for her 80th? Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:51, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

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"Comments about her voice" heading
The "Comments about her voice" heading should be changed to "Vocal commentary" or "Vocal analysis" since there's a paragraph under it analyzing Vaughan's voice.

–Adamilo (talk) 00:09, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Unions
Without any explanation why it matters, I fail to grasp the value of Sarah having been hired as a member of one union rather than another. Nicmart (talk) 12:02, 1 August 2021 (UTC)