Talk:Sarutahiko Ōkami

Todo: Needs IPA transcription of name. Kevin.cohen (talk) 15:55, 24 December 2013 (UTC) - It appears that the last paragraph is uncited and nonsense. I normally would not remove just delete information, but according to an expert that I work with this information is not accurate. I will look for citations, and see if it can verified then replaced. Takashi Ueki (talk) 03:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * So why did you just delete it anyway? What part of it is "nonsense"? Jpatokal (talk) 15:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Nonsense? Does nto sounds like it... But as far as I can research, there's no data whatsoever about who Michikaeshi and Sashikuni are... The first word I could not even find by breaking it into parts, the second one seemed to be a very minor character in some very obscure folktale mentioned in one out of many webpages...Undead Herle King (talk) 02:04, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sashikuni may be sasikuni-waka-hime, but I can not find Michikaeshi anywhere. 24.45.20.86 (talk) 19:24, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Michikaeshi is probably another name for Chigaeshi-no-ōkami (道反の大神), the great boulder god who was used by Izanagi to seal the entrance to Yomi-no-kuni and escape Izanami. He is also called by all the following names, but they are all the same deity : Sayarimasu yomido no ōkami (Kojiki), Yomido ni futagarimasu ōkami (Nihongi), Chigaeshi no ōkami (Kojiki, Nihongi). As you can see, Michikaeshi sounds like Chigaeshi, thus it was probably a reading error by the contributor who first inscribed it in this article. About great gods Okami, there is also a goddess called Toyouuke Omikami, enshrined near Amaterasu. Motoori Norinaga talked about her in one of his books, and it says she is not as important as Amaterasu (only her is called Sume-Okami) but still greatly respected. She is probably, somehow, the successor of the goddess killed by Tsukuyomi. As for Sashi-Kuni, this deity is mentionned in Jean Herbet's Les dieux nationaux du Japon with the name Sashi-kuni-ô-no-kami. Maybe it is not "great god" but "god king", as there is sometimes kami called "hiko" princes or "hime" princess.