Talk:Saskatchewan New Democratic Party

"Nondp" website
I have serious doubts about the validity of this site, particularly in light of this 1999 press release from the Saskatchewan Party. CJCurrie 20:43, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

For immediate release June 22, 1999

Saskatchewan Party Condemns Website Forgeries

Saskatchewan Party Caucus Chief of Staff Reg Downs today issued the following statement regarding the Anti-Socialist Society Internet website (www.members.home.net/nondp):

"The Saskatchewan Party is in no way associated with this website.

"Our caucus and party are extremely upset and offended that someone has posted comments to this website’s ‘Guestbook’ which have been falsely attributed to myself, Saskatchewan Party Leader Elwin Hermanson and another member of our staff.

"It is our view that these actions constitute forgery. Section 366(1)(a) of the Criminal Code of Canada states: ‘Every one commits forgery who makes a false document, knowing it to be false, with intent that it should in any way be used or acted on as genuine, to the prejudice of any one whether within Canada or not.’

"I have contacted SaskTel in an attempt to determine who is responsible for these forgeries. I have also written to SaskTel Minister Dwain Lingenfelter to request that SaskTel investigate this matter. If we are able to determine the person or persons responsible for these forgeries, we will take appropriate legal action.

"The Saskatchewan Party strongly supports the right of every citizen to free speech on the Internet or in any other public forum. However, the right to free speech does not allow a person to falsely attribute statements to another person.

"For the record, both the Saskatchewan Party and the Saskatchewan Party Caucus have excellent websites at www.saskparty.com and www.skcaucus.com."

I see you socialists are back at it again -- trying to portray a revisionist history with respect to the government of Allan Blakeney and his predecessors. Just because they didn't properly account for unfunded liabilities or infrastructure decay in the 1970s and early 1980s prior to Devine coming to power, does not mean that they were not legitimate items. To attribute all of the debt to Devine's administration is simply to propogate an innaccurate myth.

64.110.251.69 08:18, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

That's an interesting view you're promoting. Do you have any sources to back it up? CJCurrie 21:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Do you have any sources to back up your implied assertion that there was no debt before Devine came to power from the government of Allan Blakeney and his predecessors?

Merely reverting edits without justification is definitely against the spirit of wiki.

64.110.251.69 22:57, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I've given you my justification. Your view is that the Blakeney government hid deficits. You're entitled to this view, but you'll need to back it up with something tangible if you want it included in the article.

I also don't appreciate the dodgy anti-NDP site you've linked the article to. CJCurrie 23:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't appreciate that you only post pro-NDP sites and do not allow for a balanced view. Do you have any evidence whatsoever that all the deficits of the Government were the responsibility of the Devine administration?

It goes both ways. Don't try and have it both ways, it simply will not work that way.

64.110.251.69 01:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

We know that the Devine government posted deficits. This isn't a matter of debate. On the other hand, it is a matter of debate that the Blakeney government posted deficits.

You might want to look over RS sometime. CJCurrie 02:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

"Posting" deficits (the result of transparent accounting practices and balance sheet consolidation), and 'hiding' deficits (the result of phoney baloney such as "Fiscal Stabilization Funds" or hidden Crown Corporation debt or unrecognized pension plan unfunding) are entirely two different things.

64.110.251.69 09:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Link was posted to prove defitcits did exist before Devine, so reverted article back.

NDP and scandals
The NDP government is now embroiled in a number of scandals including the Murdoch Carriere sexual harassment affair, and a scandal involving the cover-up of theft of caucus and taxpayers funds.

I agree with Greenjoe that this is not sufficiently verified. It comes from a highly partisan source - a hostile political campaigning website - whose portrayal of events might well be biased. What do other sources with a different viewpoint say on the same subject? Tearlach 11:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

NDP and scandals
The NDP government is now embroiled in a number of scandals including the Murdoch Carriere sexual harassment affair, and a scandal involving the cover-up of theft of caucus and taxpayers funds.

I agree with Greenjoe that this is not sufficiently verified. It comes from a highly partisan source - a hostile political campaigning website - whose portrayal of events might well be biased. What do other sources with a different viewpoint say on the same subject? Tearlach 11:40, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Carriere was really blown out of proportion (see the above thread), but still considered a "scandal" by the SK party. Theft of caucus funds is in the news right now, but not really a government scandal since it has to do with their own caucus (but the papers are all over it and opposition is calling for resignations blah blah ect). Theft of taxpayers funds is news from a year ago I believe from Community Relations department (or something similar) and Env. department, but both were just employees and didn't really have anything to do with the government (except that they were in power at the time, but yelling by opposition blah blah ect again). I would be in favour of a complete ban on external links to all party sites and affiliates just to keep NPOV (the only exception should be on the article about the party to their home page because it's relavant). If you can't find a news source, it's either party propaganda or people don't like how the news source portrays it. (I'll be at WP:EL proposing that now). -Royalguard11 (Talk·Review Me!) 23:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

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1944 in Regina
What was the name of the Calgary-born lawyer who worked on this and later had his office just south of the Hotel Sask on Scarth Street? Masalai (talk) 04:39, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

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"first socialist government in North America"
The cliche that the Saskatchewan CCF government was the "first socialist government in North America" is often repeated. However, this overlooks the Mexican Revolution and overlooks the Party of the Mexican Revolution government of Lázaro Cárdenas which among other things nationalized the oil industry and other sectors, instituted land reform, welfare programs, and amended the constitution to require all children to receive a "socialist education" in school. While his successors and the successor party, PRI, moved to the right I don't think it can be seriously doubted that the 1930s government was socialist in nature, certainly as if not more socialist than Douglas's CCF government. Nixon Now (talk) 12:11, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

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