Talk:Sasuke Uchiha/Archive 1

Images
If you would like to add an image to the Uchiha Sasuke article, please review Wikipedia's Image Use Policy and upload the image if it is in the public domain. Otherwise use off-site link tags to link to galleries. It's bad manners to suck a website's bandwidth by directly linking to their images, so I took the links off the page entirely. Also, please note that if you would like to leave messages and your signature regarding your edit it's best to do that on this discussion page. -- 69.140.62.82

I really like Sasuke's current image,he's sooo cool!!! Besides,his "Sasuke, age 8" picture is sooo cute!!! I hope no one changes it,and,does anyone know who put that main picture there? (The big one above his biodata.) Thanks...Zachary crimsonwolf 12:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Naruto Arc II
Please pardon me, but I don't see how Sasuke's "killer intent" made Sai fall on his behind. Manga chapter 301 shows a giant Sharingan looming over Sai in a rather psychedelic setting, which is too obviously an illusion. So GhostStalker, why reject the idea that it's a genjutsu probally because they saw me and i said BOO and they got scared.

If mere "killing intent" had such a powerful effect (on an ANBU-level ninja at that!), looks-that-stun would be pretty common. Besides, I think it would take more than a plain stare to introduce fear into Mr Emotionless. Genjutsu would do it. The Sharingan is quite capable of that. --Lionelster 03:11, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The only reason I say its killer intent and not a genjutsu is because that how it was interpreted on Leafninja. If you guys feel that that was a genjutsu instead of just plain killer intent, I wont question it. --GhostStalker 14:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I think the reason people disagree that it's genjutsu is because we haven't seen Sasuke perform genjutsu before. On the other hand, killer intent has been seen several times. Example: Anime Ep. 135/Manga Ch. 238 p. 3 where Sasuke strikes fear into Kabuto, a Kakashi-level ninja, with the strength of his chakra. Kabuto jerks back in fear, sweat drops, the whole thing. The second time we see this in the anime is ep 170 when Whatshisname gasps in fear and drops his head after Sasuke glares at him. It's an anime-only storyline, but it's also the only time we've seen this character since episode 135. The 'psychedelic setting' we see with Sai in Ch. 301 could be an artistic interpretation of the fear Sai is now experiencing for the first time ever. If it was the first time I'd ever felt fear, I might fall over too. To sum up, I think there are arguments to be made on both sides, but categorizing it as genjutsu is probably premature without additional evidence. -- Meersan 00:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Addition, "killing intent" is indeed pretty common, see Orochimaru vs. Sasuke and Sakura in the Chûnin Exam and even Orochimaru vs. Kakashi in Ep. 40 mark 15:30. Meersan 00:46, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It's possible that Orochimaru taught Sasuke his version of Kanashibari no Jutsu; as stated above, when he used it, it was basically just killer intent/bloodlust. Thus, it would be ninjutsu, not genjutsu. SpionKop 01:01, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Killer intent is a common idea in japanese anime. It's not nessacarily something active like a genjutsu, it's more like a evil aura. anonymous 00:42, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Naruto box
I've made a naruto box, check the template here, and use Uchiha Sasuke's profile as a template for how it's used. Havok 14:18, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Naruto/Sasuke Yaoi
Is this really necessary? This is mearly a fandom among female fans. The two characters are obvious not gay in Kishimoto's story and this dose not need a whole section or even a paragraph. --SwordKirby537 18:20, 17 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I dislike Yaoi myself so I distrusted my initial instinct to just do away with it, but prompted by your comment I think I'll just go ahead and act on it. -AceMyth 18:56, 17 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Personally, I'm a great fan of Yaoi, especially of NaruSasu. However, I don't think it has a place on this page. Yaoi pairings exist of practically every male manga character, it's nothing special. The only thing which might make Naruto and Sasuke's relation more special then other Yaoi pairings, is that, for a shounen manga, their relationship is very deep and emotional. Not to mention the enourmous amount of Shounen-ai scenes ^^
 * Still, even this isn't that special or unique. And it wouldn't justify a seperate section. A small footnote, perhaps...not it's own heading--JadziaLover 19:15, 17 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Naruto has acknowledged Sasuke as being like a brother to him, so that might change the Yaoi perspective, at least from Naruto's standpoint?

i hate yaoi, but we gotta admit that Naruto's seeming obliviousness toward any female's attraction to him makes him and sasuke prime yaoi-bait


 * Him being oblivious makes him kind of an idiot (Sakura often says he's an idiot anyway), not gay. But I agree with you, I hate yaoi. That's probably 'cause I'm a dude though, who finds yuri entertaining (:P). The Wretched 03:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It doesnt have a place in an encyclopedia article though... --GhostStalker 05:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Umm...everyone,I don't like to disturb your merry discussion,but can anyone please explain who yaoi is? Pretty please,with sugar tops! Thanks!!!Zachary crimsonwolf 12:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Yaoi is not a who, but a type of genre in manga. It focuses on homosexual relationships between male characters and is generally sexually explicit. Yuri is the same thing, except with females. Sasuk  e  -kun  27  19:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Unless Kishimoto provides sufficient evidence to say otherwise, it is safe to say that no such relationship exists in the Naruto series and thus should not be included in this article.

Yaoi's are hot! Don't exclude them! I mean, sure they're grosss and totally not necesarry but they're entertaiment. That's WHY they were created. BUT all in all... I AGREE -Maymi Hatake

I don't really like yoai either...especially this pairing. I mean, why would Hinata have such a huge crush on Naruto if Kishimoto didn't intend for them to eventually get together? And if Sasuke's goal is to kill Itatchi and REVIVE HIS CLAN, well how is he supposed to do that with Naruto, or any other guy?

Someone told me an interview with Kishimoto revealed that Team 7 was supposed to be a love triangle, with Naruto lusting after Sakura who lusted after Sasuke who lusted after Naruto... anyone know where such an interview could be found? 152.13.43.73 19:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, in a fanfic. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 20:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that Sasuke can be gay, because in the second part of the Chunin exam, the Forest of Death, when Sakura was injured by Zaku, Sasuke wanted to punish him (and dislocated his shoulders), so I beleive that that's a sign of affection for Sakura.--Konichiwa.mia34-- 24 February 2007

Sasuke's name?
Sasuke is named after "Sarotobi Sasuke" or something right? Well I went to the article, and took the kanji characters, and I got two that kind of mean the same thing: help(佐助). So shouldn't this be in the Trivia section? I'm just checking.


 * I'm unsure about this, although I can definitely confirm that they use the Kanji pronounciation in the Madarin dub ("Zhou Zhu").

Why should Sasuke give a crap about his clan I mean Naruto had it worst then him he didn't have any parents,doesn't have any friends,crappy at jutsu,and suffered from something he didn't cause.Sasuke on the other hand had natural talent, the girls loved him,and if he's going to restore his clan than then whats the fuzz


 * What does this have to do with his name? Observation 12:29, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Question
I just have a question. When Sasuke and Naruto fought for the last time, it seemed as though their powers were equally matched. However, does that imply that if Sasuke used a higher level of the Cursed Seal, he would have become more powerful than Naruto even while he was using the Nine-Tails' chakra?


 * Probably not. I'm pretty sure it's stated in the data books that the Heaven Seal (which Anko and Sasuke both have) is the strongest type of seal, and so far no evidence of anything above Level 2 Cursed Seals exist.

23:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * And Naruto could've used a two-tails (or higher) transformation which could match (or overpower) Sasuke. --Beef noodles 23:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

It was somewhere that Sasuke had the power of his ancestor, Madara Uchiha. At that time, Kyuubi said that Madara had chakra more wicked than his own. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.135.160.121 (talk • contribs).

Also, at the last second, instead of killing Sasuke a killing blow he just scratched his forhead protecter, whether to make a point to Sasuke or not to kill him, or both. So Naruto was definitely not weaker at the time.MoChan 23:11, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Did it ever accur to anyone that Naruto didn't kill Sasuke (or at least harm him) becuase he had someone's fist driven right into his gut and that he couldn't reach Sasuke? Besides, unless someone can tell me how this speculation could improve the article, we should just stop talking right here (seeing as how Wikipedia is not a forum and should be used to discuss changes to the article). // Sasuk  e  -kun  27  23:26, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Recieveing the family crest
this is a quote from the article: ''Sasuke (age 8 at the time) eventually succeeds in performing the jutsu in front of his father, surprising him. At that moment, Sasuke finally receives his father's recognition and the right to wear the clan's emblem on his back, a sign of adulthood.''

Now, I've never read the manga, so I don't know if it's the same there, but in the Naruto anime, Sasuke already has the crest, before ever learning the jutsu. In all the flashbacks he has of himself as a child, he has the family crest on the back of his shirt, but it isn't until episode 130 that his father attempts to teach him the jutsu, at which time, Sasuke is also shown with the family crest on the back of his shirt. Is this a blooper from the animators' side or is something else wrong? Hecko 19:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Hecko is right, the article is partially incorrect. "The Uchiha clan sees one as as an adult when they can use the Katon technique", however Sasuke already wears the crest on his clothing before he learns to perform the jutsu.  In the translations I've seen, his father says he can now wear the crest 'proudly' or 'without shame'. Manga Ch. 233 p. 14. Going to change it. -- Meersan 01:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Sasuke's Birthday
Guys, i confused with Sasuke's date of birth. Here it's 23 of January, on Leafninja.com it's 23 of July. I asked them where did they take the information from, and they said it's from Data-book. So, which date is the correct?


 * It's July 23rd, according to the Second Databook. Kylara 20:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Heroes who turned evil
Would Sasuke qualify for this category? Although he is shown to be loyal to Orochimaru, a character alleged to be irredemible, does Sasuke show enough malicious qualities to be regarded as truly evil? Or, to take a more relativistic stance, does the author of the manga depict him in a manner inferring that the author regards him as such? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.24.232.29 (talk • contribs) 04:39, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think he's evil, He could have killed Naruto if he really wanted to.. And he doesn't address Orochimaru as sensei like he did Kakashi. all he wants is power. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sasuke006 (talk • contribs) 17:24, 8 July 2006  (UTC)
 * I can't recall any instance where he ever called Kakashi "sensei" either. He's quite rude. 216.176.105.92 20:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It is debatable, because any character who wants the death of the protagonist can be considered "evil" -- she chapter 308 of the manga. If it wasn't for Sai, Sasuke's sword would've pierced Naruto already. Also, he doesn't NEED to addresss Orochimaru as 'sensei' to be considered bad himself -- it is most likely his own way of feeling superior towards Orochimaru. In my opinion, anyone who wants to commit homicide to the protagonist for a selfish reason should be considered evil in a story. Observation 17:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not really a Sasuke fan but in my opinion, Sasuke should not be considered evil yet. He tried to kill Naruto because he's just 'asking for it'. Sasuke's ultimate goal is to kill Itachi and he won't be able to do it without Orochimaru. Naruto once again tried to interfere with his goal (by rescuing him from Orochimaru) and Sasuke would just not allow it. There was no indication that Sasuke made any attempts to deliberately seek Naruto and kill him. Sasuke should be more of an anti-hero. --Beef noodles 01:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

well, Sasuke is on the "good side", but his close call with Naruto doesnn't make him "evil" or at least completly evil, it probly may have been a moment of rage, or the point where he's just had too much, like how siblings fight often and have physical contact. Also, heros can be rude, but that won't make them evil.--Katey100 00:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Sasuke may have been "swayed" to be evil, much like Anakin Skywalker did, both swayed on the basis of acquiring power. I may be seeing patterns here between the two characters... Sasuke acquiring power to avenge his family and kill Itachi. Anakin acquiring power to avenge his mother's death. The two did not matter if they are swayed to be evil as long as they acquire power. Sasuke not using Sharingan on Naruto on the second part of the manga while Anakin dealt Luke with less hostilities in The Empire Strikes Back. I would bet Sasuke will be going back to the good much like Anakin did in Return of the Jedi... might not be in a dying fashion but who knows? I'm just speculating, but I'll be very interested how Sasuke's character will develop from here on out. --Francis820 07:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think I agree with this Francis820 guy, its possible he'll be good again but it might be after he kills Itachi, or he might do an act of self sacrifice when Naruto and the others will be in danger but he might just sacrifice himself by saying something arrogant and selfish without showing much compassion in it, either that or he'll just no longer be evil nor good and just remain a missing-nin so he wont have to go back to Konoha in shame, but one thing is for sure Rock Lee is still the most awesome nin WOO-HOO!! --Xer, Rock Lee's #1 FAN ??:??, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I think he does deserve to go in that category. He wishes for the death of the protagonist of the series for a selfish reason and is allied with the primary evil of the series. No matter what the Sasuke fanboys believe, he is as evil as Saruman, so my vote is in favor of him being placed in the category. Treima 01:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Treima, I disagree. In my opinion, whether a person is evil depends on his motive. Saruman seeks to use power to dominate the world. His development and actions would come at other people's expenses and liberty. While Sasuke's motive is personal and is against the one person who has caused him suffering and pain. Sasuke does not intend to hurt other people but Itachi, unless they voluntarily stand in his way. I'd argue that Sasuke's more like the Count of Monte Cristo than Saruman. --Sphinxridd 14:56, 1 December 2006 (EST)


 * I agree with Treima, Sasuke's only goal is vengence. He currently has complete disregard for anything but acheiving his goal, regardless of the consiquences.  That my friends, is the defination of evil.  Sasuke should be moved to the villians. Xeago 21:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * so tell me this - what, in your mind, should a person do if his parents were killed by his brother? Forgive and forget? Please try to imagine what that must feel like. You wake up one morning, and all you held dear was gone. Itachi's crime is so unforgivable that it makes Sasuke's reaction, i.e. seeking vengence, somewhat understandable.--Sphinxridd 21:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It's not the want of revenge that makes Sasuke's current path evil, it's his complete disregard for all else but the pursuit of the power he deems neccesary for that revenge. He has become consumed with hatred for his brother, that hatred has corrupted his core value system and caused him to seek out Orochimaru to gain power by any means.  He has lost any upstanding moral character.  He has sided with the enemy of his former home.  Yes, Itachi's violations agains Sasuke were most heinous, but it was the choice to abandon all else for the power to kill his brother that classes Sasuke as a villian in this story.


 * well said. you convinced me. --Sphinxridd 23:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * His antithesis is Naruto, who uses his bond to Sasuke to fuel his desire for the power he needs to "rescue" him. These deal with core themes in the manga, unconditional love, and violation of common familial values.  Also, Sasuke has become an antagonist, that alone warrants the need for the move.  Xeago 23:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Sasuke's obsession with vengence has obviously gone too far, therefore turning him evil, but, correct me if I'm wrong, I read in the article about Orochimaru that in the end, Sasuke not only refuses to kill his opponents after defeating them, but also betrays and attacks Orochimaru. Isn't that proof that there's some good left in him? -- Konichiwa.mia34-- 24 February 2007
 * He attacks Orochimaru sick on his bed by surprise while he's already coughing up blood. He also says he'll kill him even if he begs for mercy. He used up Orochimaru and now moves on. Nothing good about it, he's not even after a fair fight. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.82.143.200 (talk) 16:06, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

hmm, you may have a point. but what about the not-killing-the-defeated-opponents thing? or maybe that was just because he couldn't be bothered. you're right; nothing good about that. (Konichiwa.mia34 13:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC))


 * And someone said Sasuke had a sense of honor. attacking someone when they're coughing up blood... not very honorific. But, it does prove that he is not exactly evil. He knows what Orochi is. All in all, it really depends on your definition of evil. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.229.190.227 (talk) 15:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC).

there are so many ways to look at it, I don't even know what to think anymore! I'd say he's half-evil, half-good. plain and simple (well, it's anything BUT simple, but you know what I mean). Konichiwa.mia34 21:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

To be fair, if Sasuke doesn't kill Orochimaru now he could take over his body once the time limit is up.Animalia555 15:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

hmm, I think you have a point.--Konichiwa.mia34--

Early Childhood
Itachi said that Sasuke was not even worth killing. To be precise, Itachi told him "You've always wanted to surpass me. That's why I'm going to let you live."

I'm not sure if this portion of the copyedit (diff) makes sense. "To be precise" doesn't seem like the right phrasing because Itachi says both of these things. "You've always wanted to surpass me (etc)" (manga ch 224 p 19/anime ep 131 ~9:00), followed by "You aren't even worth killing" (manga ch 225 p 5/anime ep 131 ~11:00). I think a line of explanation works better to tie in the rivalry theme addressed in the 1st paragraph of the section but I'll leave it to someone else to decide. Either way it should probably be rephrased. - Meersan 06:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow, you guys are fast. - Meersan 06:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

In other languages
These are linked wrong for some reason. Please fix what you can. --Paliosun 19:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Wow, I had to go back in the edit history for over two months ago to find when it was changed. Gonna fix it now. --Pentasyllabic 02:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Does anyone know Arabic? That interwiki link was apparently added after the vandalism and has identical vital stats as Naruto. --Pentasyllabic 02:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete it until the proper link can be found. I'm surprised that persisted for so long. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:40, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Sannin Trivia
In one of the trivia bullets it says that in chapter 4 Sasuke, Sakura, and Naruto are standing on the three sannin's summons, or something similar (particularly Gama Bunta, Katsuyu, and Manda) but the summons shown are obviously not any of these three. Should this trivia bullet be changed? It is also on the Sakura page. This is the referred to page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NarutoCh4.jpg Blademaster313 02:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
Uchiha Sasuke → Sasuke Uchiha – As pointed out in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga, the current names for articles about Naruto characters are inconsistent with the names used for other anime characters (Naruto characters use Japanese order for names, while most other anime characters have their name in Western order), as well not following the naming guidelines in WP:MOS-JA.

DO NOT COMMENT HERE. Please participate in the centralized discussion at Talk:Uzumaki Naruto

--Kunzite 01:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Western vs Japanese
Why are people flipping the names around to western style, ie itachi uchiha. Shouldnt we be preserving the original naming of the charicters? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.57.143.48 (talk • contribs)


 * Read Talk:Uzumaki Naruto. And sign your comments... --GhostStalker 18:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Also, the discussion has been closed, so please don't vote or add comments to it. --Pentasyllabic 18:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

First let me appologize beacuse I just got into this and got overexcited and had not realized it had been closed. Seconed I still feel the names should not have been changed for you are changing the original design of the anime, I just feel you shouldnt change art and naruto is very much a great Animation and literature.208.57.143.48 18:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)bLaCk


 * Name order is in no way a part of the art. Their names aren't puns or anything like that so using he western name order has no bearing on the series. And, like they said, the matter's closed. Too late now. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 19:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Their names aren't puns? At least two are... "haruno sakura" = "haru no sakura" (spring cherry blossom) "umino iruka" = "umi no iruka" (sea dolphin) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.74.80.21 (talk • contribs).


 * Ooo, two names. Forgive the sarcasm, but you you can mention that as trivia in their respective trivia sections. Western order is what readers here will be familiar with, so we use it. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow. If you actually knew japanese, you'd know that there are a lot more than that, such as Orochimaru (Orochi-large snake)(Maru-japanese boy's name). The list goes on and on, but my memory has better things to hold.

I don't see the point of using Western Order if it's a Japanese anime. If the origin of the name has the surname of the person/chracter first, leave it be. And to rebuke the "Western" order", then why not change other names, say...Chiang Kai Shek? Why is it not changed to Kai Shek Chiang to make it more "familiar" to the Western readers?

I agree completely, there is no need to Americanise everything. -Bloodloss

Personal opinions aside this has already been decided.. --67.71.77.211 05:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

So did sasuke die?
It appears that he died...is there a mention of that on the page?


 * He's not dead. Watch tommorow's episode. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 02:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

The fillers would never, ever kill off Sasuke. They are merely a fake story written by the animation team, and eventually it will be on track with the manga again... so I sincerely doubt they'd ever mess it up that badly. -Bloodloss


 * Any chance to rag on the fillers, right? :-/ That question was made by someone after Cartoon Network reran the episode where Haku turned Sasuke into a human pincushion, and put him into a 'temporary death-like state'. --Gero 08:42, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Time jump picture
Should the picture from this page be used seeing as it's colored? I would say that outweighs the obstructive stuff around him. Nemu 01:04, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Eh, it's not like the colors ilustrate much more than the black and white does. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 02:03, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I feel that black and white manga images are better suited to these articles. Not only does it match the colour, but it looks more professional. Ofcourse, this is totally subjective. -Bloodloss

Picture
Um...I have a question,but......who CHANGED the picture of Sasuke?? I mean,well,honestly,I think that the former picture of Sasuke is WAAAY better than the one that is in use now....please,if ANYONE can do it,please,please change it back...the new one doesn't even look like him.Zachary crimsonwolf 13:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Whine whine whine. Seriously, if you want it changed back then you can do it yourself, it's not like anyone's stopping you. --Pentasyllabic 15:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Seriously. Treima 01:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Well...excuuuuse me!!! I am just a newbie here,and I dunno anything about articles. I could have done it in a minute or so, if only I knew how to...and when I was trying I am trying to learn how to do it, you come snapping, geez...never mind....Zachary crimsonwolf 13:14, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey, I wasn't trying to snap at you! My apologies if you took it that way. I was simply agreeing with Penta that you should learn how to do it and Be bold. I personally can't see the picture you're referring to (this is my school computer and images are disabled) but if you think you need to change it, don't let anything stop you! Treima 01:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! You're much nicer than that guy...anyway, I DID try to correct articles and all that, but I just don't know HOW to change the picture, or any picture for that matter...by the way, your apology is accepted. You needn't to, anyway.Zachary crimsonwolf 13:18, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


 * You know, if you had bothered describing which pictures you were talking about and said that you wanted it changed but didn't know how, I might even have done it for you. But instead you got off as whiny and called me not nice :( --Pentasyllabic 13:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

So you DO have a nice part...don't bother, I don't mind the picture anymore. But if you really can change it, its the one where Sasuke looks over his shoulder at you and smiles, background is an area with trees...it is the one used previously,before it is changed to this current one. Know it? Thanks anyway. I will really appreciate it if you could change it. But someone else might change it again though...ah, well, let's see what happens first. Sorry for calling you umm...not nice? By the way, I was trying to be polite there, not whiny, but I guess I screwed up...well, all I can say is that I meant no offence when I called you not nice. Seriously. Zachary crimsonwolf 13:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey do you think someone could post this picture up instead  http://static.stickam.com/media/video/converted/1708/1591/6/e9a4babe-b26c-11da-811c-579f3130bbd7.avi.flv.jpg

You could, if you want to. If you don't know how to, maybe you should try asking for help. I don't.Zachary crimsonwolf 09:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I like the current picture because it's more in character. The last one (where 'Sasuke' is smiling with trees in the background) was actually of Naruto, who had transformed himself to look like Sasuke. Ref anime Ep. 3. He was smiling because he was actually Naruto... -- Meersan 23:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * While I agree with the sentiment, I must correct you. That smiling Sasuke pic was not of the transformed Naruto. It was of the actual Sasuke teasing Naruto for freezing up during the attack by the Demon Brothers in episode 5-7 (one of those). – Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

This article is crap
This article is crappy and I'm going to fix it up (alot) my changes will be finished by Halloween or so. It amazes me how you can allow it to be on the cleanup list since September.Sam ov the blue sand 02:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Done, minor edits are needed though.Sam ov the blue sand 03:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Just need a little help.
Hey guys, some of you might know that I'm fairly new to all this. What I'm trying to do is make more connections between where a technique or person or something is mentioned and where it is described. Can some one give me a quick rundown on how to do that? I checked the help page and it didnt really explain it. thanks Xeago 00:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, got it delt with.Xeago 00:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
What's with all the vandalism? Of the last 50 edits only 8 have been non-vandalism or reverting of it. Does this page need to be semi-protected? I'm worried that people trying to make useful edits will get caught in the crossfire. I guess if it's a normal level of vandalism it's OK, but it seems excessive to me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meersan (talk • contribs) 00:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
 * Whoops, forgot my sig. Thanks HagermanBot. -- Meersan 00:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * No more excessive than it's ever been. Just ignore it. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Uchiha Sasuke's height/weight
Is the height/weight in this article for part 1 or part 2? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooseguy (talk • contribs)


 * They're for Part I. Unless it specifies that it's for Part II, you should just assume that it's Part I. ~SnapperTo 22:12, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Cursed Seal Picture
The new cursed seal level one picture is crap! If someone can will you please change it back? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.23.190.185 (talk) 02:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC).

Sasukes rank
Sasuke never passed the Chunin test and should have the rank Genin. This because someone changed Genin to Chunin. Jacce 14:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * He becomes a Chunin during the time skip. // Poetic  Decay  15:17, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Whoops. Forget that last coment. I'm not sure if he successfully becomes a Chunin or not. All I know is that everyone else does (except for Naruto). // Poetic  Decay  16:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * When does it say that? - !Malomeat 15:39, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Who are you talking to !Malomeat? Jacce 18:21, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Either. I feel like I missed something. - !Malomeat 22:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If you mean the start of this discuss it because someone changed Sasukes rank to Chunin, which I later changed back to Genin. I think you understand the rest by reading the the start. If you wonder where the change was made, check this link Jacce 09:49, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sasuke is a genin still to our knowledge. Unless he has officially become an Oto-nin (which seems unlikely, as far as can be told, Oto has fizzled away now that Orochimaru no longer needs its) he hasn't had the opportunity to take any exams. Retlor 12:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sasuke was made a chunin by Genma Shiranui when he sent Sasuke after Gaara. (No, I did not make the change) 198.109.96.31 20:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Genma said that he had the skill, but Oro killed the third so he wasn't made a chunin. Plus the fifth didn't know.
 * Ah, I see. Then he must be a genin. My bad. 68.43.41.106 04:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

What I'm still wondering is how Naruto isn't a chunin.
 * He hasen't been able to do the test, but his experience make him a Chunin level ninja or even Jonin level.Jacce 18:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but Naruto defeated Neji, so that's why I'm confussed because the others defeated their opponents(sp?).

Sharingan?
IDK If anyone noticed, but during his fight with Naruto, Sasuke briefly had a different Sharingan. What was it.? 70.153.236.109 19:22, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I assume you're referring to when he was standing on the log and an extra dot appeared in his eyes. It's basically just the regular Sharingan getting better and more developed. When Sasuke first gets sharingan in his fight with Haku, he has two dots in one eye, and one dot in the second. By the chunin exam he has two dots in both. This just meant he had developed it further. If this isn't what you meant then point out what you did mean, as it may be something I missed completely. Retlor 00:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Time-skip picture
Can we find a timeskip picture that shows more than his face, which hasn't changed a great deal really? Surely there has to be one which shows his new clothing as well? Retlor 02:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Betrayal
Any one feel like posting that he's betrayed Oro and is trying to kill him now? Also, any one notice that kick ass chakra blade? Sasuke says he can't learn any more from Oro, time to kill him! 69.157.21.185 20:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Should we remove the affiliation with sound village from his infobox or is it too early? NeilHynes - Talk - Contributions - 21:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I reckon wait to see what happens, but that did look kick ass and i think Sasuke's a wanker.

Kick Ass Rocks Lotus 02:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Might be Sasuke asking Oro to transfer into him quickly, which's why he wants a fight. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.213.198.142 (talk) 08:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

wait, if Sasuke wanted Oro to transfer into him, why would he want to fight? Konichiwa.mia34 13:47, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * That's just Sasuke's way of doing things - testing out his own strength against a weakened Oro and Kabuto. He might as well fight it before Oro is healed. Something new might be revealed of Oro or Kabuto, and Sasuke's motive.


 * I never thought I'd say it, but Sasuke's turning into a little Itachi! Itachi said that he killed his own clan to test his strength, or power... something like that, and that's what Sasuke's doing. He's testing his power against Orochi. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.229.190.227 (talk) 15:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC).
 * Sasuke is not and will never be like Itachi. Itachi killed good, innocent people who care about him, while Oro is bad, greedy, and does not care a thing about Sasuke, except to transfer into him. Sasuke fights Oro because Oro is evil. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.213.198.142 (talk) 00:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC).


 * Very true. Itachi is better than Sasuke. I think Itachi just... over reacted? And Sasuke will never be exactly like Itachi. He's close, but not close enough.


 * You mean in skill? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.29.196.27 (talk) 16:41, 27 February 2007 (UTC).


 * Un (Japanese for "yeah").


 * Sasuke is going to get pretty dang close though. Sure, Oro is a bad guy from Konoha's point of view, but we don't know exactly his entire past or motives. There could have been something we missed.

But I'd wait on removing the Otogakure flag, because Oro might transfer into him at the very last second somehow, or Sasuke is mind controlled by someone/something, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.209.169.2 (talk) 03:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC).


 * We don't know a lot about Oro's past. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.229.190.227 (talk) 23:10, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

Why no Anime time skip pic?
The title speaks for itself. Sam ov the blue sand 23:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Because there really isn't a good opportunity throughout the 8 minute extra special thing to get a good picture of him. There's the part where he "hugs" Naruto, but that's about it. ~SnapperTo 00:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Well correct me if I'm wrong (I may have to see the episode again to make sure) but when Sasuke is inside Naruto's head talking to the Kuybi isn't their a good pic somewhere in there? Sam ov the blue sand 00:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I seem to remember him being kind of yellow tinted in that scene. Not an accurate portrayal of his appearance. ~SnapperTo 00:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You're right I just saw the episode again and there is a yellow tint. Sorry for wasting your time.^_^ Sam ov the blue sand 01:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Sasuke level 2 curse seal, post time-skip
Can we get a picture of Sasuke in his level 2 curse-seal from the latest manga? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.116.9.31 (talk) 03:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC).


 * I don't think that is necessary... But I'd like to remove the picture of Sasuke performing his "Chidori: Nagashi" technique... Seriously, that part of the article is starting to look clottered, and that picture dosn't serve any actual purpose anyway (if someone wants to see it, s/he can just click on the link to the technique instead). 81.224.28.10 16:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


 * He looks more or less the same, save the outfit. I don't see why we need a pic. But speaking of, was it just me or did it looks like those hand-wing-things on his back were facing the other way this time around? Ansalo 19:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe there Interchangeable Rocks Lotus 00:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I thnk the picture should be changed to his level 2 form shown in chapter 344. Aside from it looking cool as all hell, At least everythin would be up to date Is it just me or does the Cursed Seal Level 2 form look like a Tengu? Animalia555 15:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Sasuke
Is Sasuke real?Is he still bad?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.146.233.218 (talk) 02:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
 * He's a fictional character so technically he isn't real. Yes, to our knowledge he is still bad. Retlor 14:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Depends on how you define bad. If you consider "bad" as leaving his friends and joining Oro, then yes. However, he will never kill Naruto or has any intention to, and he fights evil Oro and protects Naruto from Akatsuki. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.213.198.142 (talk) 01:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Actually, now he has no problems with killing Naruto-- 양 복  42 05:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, when he saw Naruto last he tried to kill him and would have done so if Orochimaru hadn't stopped him. I think the exact quote is 'and now you will die, all on a whim of mine.' Also, he hasn't ever protected Naruto from Akatsuki. He does fight Orochimaru, but it seems to be solely about not needing him, nothing to do with Orochimaru being evil. Retlor 15:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It all depends on your definition of bad. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.229.191.54 (talk) 11:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Good bad or bad bad? Meh... I can't keep up with your young hipster slang... Back in mah day, words meant what they meant and there was none of this Intrawebs and Wikencyclopedia stuff... You Can&#39;t See Me!

Current Arc
An edit I made which was previously reverted back was where I changed "Itachi is the only one I want to kill," to "They aren't the ones I want to kill." This is significant, as it implies there is more then one person he wants to kill. He even says when he attacks Orochimaru that "you [Orochimaru] are one of the ones I [Sasuke] want to kill."

Animalia555 15:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * In regards to the first, Sasuke was referring to the ninjas that just died. He did not want to kill them, thus they are not the ones he wanted to kill. Saying "They are not the one I wanted to kill," makes for an awkward sentence.
 * The second is ambiguous. Because he wants to kill both Orochimaru and Itachi, he sorta' had to use a plural prepositional object. This may or may not have extended to Team 7 or to anyone else. For now, we'll just have to use the evidence that we have and assume that it's just those first two. Smaller assumptions make for lower chances of fatal error. You Can&#39;t See Me! 06:41, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Catchphrase?
Their respective articles note that Sakura says "Chandarou" a lot, and of course Naruto has "-ttebayo", but what about the fact that Sasuke says something like, "Uza na Tonkachi" whenever someone annoys him? That might merit inclusion in the article (although it might count as non-canon); are the catch-phrases of the other two based on a canon source, or is it just completely obvious?

Tonkachi means "hammer," doesn't it? And is the Usa/Uza related to "Uzai," "annoying?" Is that some dialect thing, possibly because Kishimoto's apparently a hick, changing the "-i" adjective to a "na" adjective, or am I totally misinterpreting the phrase? It seems odd to me that the cool guy every girl in Konohagakure has a crush on...calls people "ninnyhammer" when they bug him.

Am I wrong in my interpretation? I've never seen the phrase written in Japanese; does anyone happen to know what it is Sasuke always calls people? 71.223.169.27 17:38, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

~ yes you are wrong, he's says usuratonkachi, which means idiot(ReshenKusaga 03:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC))


 * Thanks, I didn't think I could be right. 71.223.169.27 03:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

no, baka means idiot.

Taijutsu
Shouldnt the strong fist style of taijutsu be listed under signature jutsu/kekkai genkai? He does use this style of taijutsu a couple of times at least if im not mistaken.24.185.163.37 23:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sasuke copied some Strong Fist moves, but he didn't master the style to the same degree as Lee and Guy. Furthermore, with all of Sasuke's fire-based moves and Chidori variants, Strong Fist is heavily overshadowed. The list in the infobox is only there for the character's unique, repeatedly-used, theme-based, or otherwise "signature" techniques. You Can&#39;t See Me! 06:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Recent Chapter
As per Chapter 345, can it be relatively assumed that the "soul ritual" that Orochimaru attempted was Living Corpse Reincarnation? Furthermore, as the flashback scene was likely the indication of Orochimaru attempting to take Itachi's body - given that Orochimaru comments on the similarities between the two incidents -, as well as Sasuke facing Orochimaru during the process without so much as blinking an eye, that the process, at least to some degree, was unsuccessful? Again, this is obviously speculation, but a clarification on what to place on the page at the moment would be nice. Sephiroth BCR 01:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes to the first, yes to the second, wait and see for the third. You Can&#39;t See Me! 04:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * In Chapter 346 (which, although has not yet been released in its integrity, has had three of its pages released on the Net), shows that Sasuke defeated Orochimaru. So yes, the Living Corpse Reincarnation was unsuccessful.

Azurel 21:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Someone should add what Kabuto said about Oro white snake form and how when he came into the room it was already decomposing meaning that white snake corpse was self disappearing, whether this act is a self imposed jutsu I don't know or just natural to his snake form I don't know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.108.56.182 (talk • contribs).


 * It is apparently a side-effect of completing the Living Corpse Reincarnation technique. On a sidenote, it's a metaphor for his rebirth, emphasized by the image of the snake skin by his parents' gravesite. Add it on the respective jutsu page. My thanks for the responses. And sign with four tildes please. Sephiroth BCR 06:16, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I added the fact that Sasuke is revealed to have taken of Orochimaru in 346.Obf213 21:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

New Move
Someone should add that move Sasuke did with his sword, where shot some form of energy beam/sword into Oro's arms, into his list of jutsu


 * You overlooked one massive detail: Its name hasn't been given yet. And please sign your posts with four of these: ~

You Can&#39;t See Me! 03:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


 * There is a side effect to using the living Corpse Reincarnation, Orochimaru takes on the form of the person whose body he has taken over, but his eyes remain the same if you didn't see episoe 135, Sasuke is walking behind Orochimaru ho has his intire fase except one eye rapped up in bandages, but the eye that is exposed is the same as it was every other time we've seen him.

User: Kyubi9 07:12 PM, 15 March 2007(CT)

Before there is another edit war...
Where is the Suigetsu name coming from? I have only seen the character as Mizugetsu but I'm assuming good faith and not editing yet. Can anyone tell me where that name started? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cybergoonieenderwiggin (talk • contribs) 20:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC).


 * Both "Sui" and "Mizu" mean water, and both appear to have the same kanji. So I think it's just a matter of preference. ~SnapperTo 21:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Too bad it's years off from being pronounced aloud. The majority of translations agree that it's Sui, not Mizu. It also makes more sense, given the fact that Suigetsu is a term for something intangible. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, Pentasyllabic confirms it as Sui. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

its time.
Guys I think it's time we put sasuke somewhere other than "leaf ninja". He is not part of hidden leaf anymore, thus, he shouldnt be in the "leaf ninja" category. - Hyuuga-sama 20:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)hyuuga-sama


 * I agree.


 * Trust me, I argued that point long ago. The consensus around these parts seems to be that he will be removed from the Leaf Ninja category just as soon as the English series gets to that point. Treima 01:53, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Unauthorisation
Somebody authorised should mention in the current arc section that he looks for a while at the "Great Bridge of Naruto Uzumaki" poster. It's just a detail but it must be noted just like when he shows a glimpse of hesitation before leaving after his fight with Naruto. I mean those are details that hint to something you know.

Black Dollar 23 Friday 2007

That's why it should be there Strike Chaos 22:15, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Affiliation
Excuse me but shouldnt someone remove his affiliation with otogakure from his template since he just killed Orochimaru. - Xer, Lord of Nobody's


 * Not really. With Orochimaru "dead", Sasuke is the de facto head of Otogakure, seeing as he is gathering people from the various bases. Whether Sasuke is interested in the institution of Otogakure itself is unknown, but for now, it should remain until further information is presented. Sephiroth BCR 04:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Sasuke's mother.
His early background information does not mention his mother.

While his father neglected Sasuke for the most part and Itachi always broke his promises to spend quality time with him, he went to his mother and complained about it.

He asks, "Why does Father only talk about Big Brother?"

His mother answers, "When your father and I are alone, he only talks about you."

I think this piece is important enough to be included in the entry.

Amelia Seyruun 16:08, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Why, exactly? Those words have not had any noticeable effect on Sasuke's character development, and it's not like his father lasts very long after his introduction. Treima 01:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * This is already mentioned under his mother's section of the Uchiha Clan article. You Can&#39;t See Me! 06:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC)