Talk:Saturn/Archive 2

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2019
Please change Saturn's 62 satellites to 82 because it was recently discovered that Saturn has 20 more moons than thought. JeromeDeLorennzo (talk) 03:01, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thank you! Double sharp (talk) 06:13, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

'7 Classical Planets' - #7: Saturn
Out of the '7 Classical Planets', Saturn was #7. 2601:580:D:209C:F41E:4AE4:9E0B:33A8 (talk) 03:37, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Was it though? Praemonitus (talk) 16:26, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Saturn's rings
What are they made of?🤔 Claudia Clouds (talk) 20:43, 14 August 2020 (UTC)


 * According to the article, they are:
 * composed predominantly of water ice with trace amounts of tholin impurities, and a peppered coating of approximately 7% amorphous carbon. The particles that make up the rings range in size from specks of dust up to 10 m.
 * Is this insufficient? What further information should the article provide? &mdash; Black Walnut talk 22:45, 14 August 2020 (UTC).

Incomprehensible Image Caption
The image located in "1.2 Atmosphere" next to Cloud Layers has the following caption: "A global storm girdles the planet in 2011. '''The head of the storm (bright area) passes the tail circling around the left limb." ''' The second sentence seems difficult to understand by the average reader. I recommend rewriting the caption, or providing clarifying links if possible. I would do it myself, but the exact meaning of the second sentence eludes me. --98.6.146.234 (talk) 14:45, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I changed it. Hopefully it's more clear now. Gap9551 (talk) 19:22, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-major axis
The source for the orbital characteristics (https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/saturnfact.html) gives two different values for the semi-major axis of the orbit of Saturn: 9.582 AU and 9.53707032 AU. Which value should be used? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.99.12.251 (talk) 21:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Both are likely valid within their respective margin of error. Another authoritative source is Explanatory Supplement to the Astronomical Almanac (2013), but that doesn't appear to be available online. Allen's Astrophysical Quantities lists that entry as $9.537 AU$, so I'd go with the latter value. Praemonitus (talk) 03:20, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Saturn during Opposition
Mie scattering, light scattering from solids, is narrow angled, typically about 5 degrees. Rayleigh light scattering from gases is wide-angled. Therefore, the enhanced back-sunlight scattering during opposition, the opposition effect (or the opposition surge), is more prominent in the solid icy rings than in the gaseous planet's surface. Urila (talk) 09:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

See: https://www.planetary.org/space-images/opposition-surge-of-saturns-rings Urila (talk) 16:40, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

WP:URFA/2020
Looking at this article for WP:URFA/2020 and also for a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Today%27s_featured_article/requests&oldid=993081710#Once_in_800_years_! potential TFA on 2020-12-21]: This is overall in better shape than Jupiter. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  19:27, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Have the two items above been resolved?
 * There are MOS:SANDWICH and image layout problems everywhere. If knowledgeable editors will delete those that are least useful (decorative), I am willing to go through and improve the layout.  There are considerable images here that are not aiding our understanding of the topic; by reducing those, we can get a better layout on the ones that stay.
 * There are considerable duplicate links. See WP:OVERLINK, but some may be deemed necessary and retained (editor discretion).  Installing this script will add an item to your toolbox that shows duplicate links in red: User:Evad37/duplinks-alt
 * There is some sporadic, uncited text. Samples in the "Voyager flybys" section.  The entire article should be scanned for uncited or outdated text.
 * Updates? For example, In April 2014, NASA scientists reported the possible beginning of a new moon within the A Ring, which was imaged by Cassini on 15 April 2013.[114]

Wrong number of moons
"Known satellites" says 83, but that is not what the reference states (afaikt). Also NASA says 82 moons now. 84.217.31.198 (talk) 20:22, 2 June 2022 (UTC)


 * (CC) Tb hotch ™ 17:36, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Undone. The count is 83 as of 2021, when the newly-discovered moon S/2019 S 1 was announced in 2021. This article uses outdated sources for the previous 82 moon count from 2019 (that BBC and NASA source). I find NASA's Solar System Exploration site rather unreliable as a formal source considering that it barely gets updated at all (even after pestering the webmaster with requests to update the pages). For the most accurate and up-to-date information about the planetary moon counts, please see NASA/JPL's more technical Solar System Dynamics website: https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sats/discovery.html N rco0e    (talk · contribs)   04:19, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2022
Please add Saturn's planetary symbol, "♄", centered below the title "Saturn" but above the picture of the planet. All of the other planets in the solar system have their planetary symbol listed. 985.tiger (talk) 10:00, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 18:59, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2023
Add links to all mentions of moon Titan. Nilederg (talk) 20:39, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ M.Bitton (talk) 20:45, 21 April 2023

This article is not satisfactory
Coming from Unreviewed featured articles/2020, I found that this article is just way too short to be considered as a featured article with only 29 thousands prose characters (articles such as Mars have around 55k characters). The gaps in our knowledge of the planet should not be an excuse anymore when we had had Cassini-Huygens orbiting Saturn for over a decade, in fact the Cassini article is even longer than Saturn's itself! The sources are generally good, but there should be a shift in focus into expanding the article. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 14:28, 5 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Can you elaborate on what exactly is missing? "Shorter, than Mars and Cassini articles" sounds like a really poor reason to put a template into FA. What section is outdated? "Internal structure", "Atmosphere", ..., "Magnetosphere", all of them? Artem.G (talk) 15:05, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I found that the "Atmosphere" section can be greatly expanded to talk more about different phenomena on Saturn's surface. Planetary rings, Natural satellites and Magnetosphere sections could also make use of additional info. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 16:10, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Neptune mentioned but not wiki-linked
The first mention of Neptune should link to the appropriate Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neptune 160.3.178.202 (talk) 20:44, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅. Rasnaboy (talk) 05:19, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

User:Sunsoutno
Why do you kept reverting the lead? CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 10:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * As I said in my edit summaries: you did not give any reason for changing it, nor establish any consensus that it needed to be changed, and the text you replaced it with was much worse than what was there originally. Sunsoutno (talk) 20:09, 25 May 2023 (UTC)