Talk:Saudi Arabia at the 2012 Summer Olympics

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I just added a Saudi perspective after a long and interesting discussion with a female Saudi friend here in the UK. She used to play international womens volleyball for Saudi and would love see Saudi women in the Olympics is the rules on clothes and viewing were changed to be compatible with their beliefs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.167.200.28 (talk) 18:08, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


 * It's an interesting addition, and it would indeed be useful to have a Saudi perspective here. Unfortunately, after some hesitation and with some reluctance, I've removed the section you added. It doesn't meet this encyclopedia's criteria in terms of relevance or verifiability. (See: Verifiability.) You write about "The Saudi view, held by both men and women", as though there were only one unanimous view held by all (or most) Saudis, and you provide no source to back up your claim that this is the dominant / mainstream view. When you say that Saudi women "would happy to play at the Olympics if these conditions were met", I doubt that's a unanimous view - and if it is, it needs a source to prove it. A conversation with an anonymous Saudi person does not qualify as a relevant / acceptable source for Wikipedia. Your development on potential amendments to competition rules comes across simply as personal opininion, and thus non-encyclopedic. As I said, it would be useful to have a Saudi perspective - but it needs to be backed up by sources, such as verifiable references to articles in Saudi media, or statements by Saudi sports officials or government officials - or wide opinion polls, if any have ever been held. Aridd (talk) 23:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't have access to any official stats unfortunately -- I see your point though so I've moved my contribution here to the talk page in case anyone else does have stats to extend it with: "The Saudi view, held by both men and women, is that is immoral for women to be watched by men wearing tight clothing and playing physical sport. Saudi women do play international sport in other competitions, where male spectators and cameras are not present, and they would happy to play at the Olympics if these conditions were met. For example, "Olymic Islamic baseketball" could be played under these conditions as a separate sport to male-viewable tennis, in a similar way to the Paralympics' separate customised versions of standard sports. Saudi women would also be happy to compete in non-physical competitions such as debating and poetry slams if they were brought back to the games as in the original ancient Greek format. The standard Olympic sports' clothing and viewing regulations would be seen by Saudi men and women in a similar way to western men and women imagining Olympic topless pole dancing as a sport." ---there probably are a few individuals in Saudi who don't hold the general national view, as there are a few women in the UK who think that the Miss World contest is OK, but that doesn't mean that the UK as an official nation is going to support or televise Miss World. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.167.200.28 (talk) 11:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

For the 2012 summer Olympics, Saudi Arabia will be the only nation who still has never had send a female to the games. Qatar will be sending 3 women and brunei 1 women. Its important that mention that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.255.243.31 (talk) 16:49, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There will in fact be two female Saudi athletes, as the article now indicates. Aridd (talk) 20:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)