Talk:Saul Bass

Untitled
I have just watched Ocean's Eleven and was impressed by the titles so I watched the credits and saw the name Saul Bass. I checked Wikipedia out of interest but I did not find a reference to this film (please correct me if I am wrong) so I suggest it is added to the body of work. The titles seemed to me to be very original, in tune with the feel of the film and well ahead of their time(1960). 85.189.168.57 03:15, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Quote?
Where is the source for the quote? It's a great quote, so where's the source? -- .~.
 * I didn't add the quote, but I found the source and added it.--Weakmassive 19:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Whats wrong with GIFs???
They're perfect for these logos. Why waste your time changing them to PNGs?, and in the process uploading incorrect versions of the logos, such as what you did w/ the 1985 AT&T logo?
 * Hey, now. I only did one error and it is the 1985 AT&T logo. It is only one incorrect version. :-P Someone pointed it out to me and I only reverted the AT&T article not the Saul Bass article because I forgot. I only uploaded/replaced two items on this list and the Bell system is identical to the one I replaced. The reason I replaced with GIFs because to follow the majority of Wikipedia's organziation logo images that are transparent PNG image format to provide flexiblity on editing articles. It is better to use PNG transparent because it would provide a smoother looking icon on a transparent background compare to GIF. Here are examples of transparent PNG that are not uploaded by me, Image:Microsoft.png, Image:Apple-logo.png, Image:Citigroup logo.png, Image:AMD logo.png and Image:Intel 2006.png. Anyways, there is your answer. If you want to discuss an image, you should place on the discussion tab not on the image summary. --J. Nguyen 06:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation unknown?
Do people agree with the leading parenthetical phrase "(. . . pronunciation of name unknown)"? I thought there was only one way to pronounce the names "Saul" and "Bass". --DylanW 06:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Saul does the commentary for the DVD of Spartacus and, while I haven't the DVD to hand with me, I am pretty sure that he introduces himself in it: therein lies the pronunciation!


 * Wowser (talk) 23:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * On a YouTube video, one guy called him Saul Bass (as in the fish) -Islandtimes (talk) 03:25, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The pronunciation of the word "Bass" as is heard in the video above (roughly 1:10–1:15) is rendered in IPA as /bæs/ (as in the fish) (see also Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary for "Saul" /sɔl/). If there are no objections I am going to add that to the lead section of the article. --Omnipaedista (talk) 19:50, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Neutrality
The syntax of this article strikes me as pretty biased — "...innovative, revolutionary work...", "...visually splendid..." — and I personally think it aught to be neutralized. Just a thought. Discuss? — zorkmid  EA 22:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

logos
I'd also like to know what happen to the logos, as I worked very hard researching and uploading the proper versions most of the logos shown. What a shame this article once had an exhaustive overview of this man's work that's now gone. I'm not doing all that work again, those days of having time for that stuff is gone! X570 03:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * There's a bunch here:


 * And that kind of thing also pisses me off. I uploaded loads of game covers, it was a hassle to find and upload them, in some cases I had to do some editing to compensate damaged covers and bad scanning, and some of them were deleted because I didn't write a fair use rationale. Then what are those goddamned tags good for?! Isn't it obvious that it is fair use to put a game's cover on the article about that game?


 * And I see the point of trying to replace fair use images with free ones if they are available, but twice I saw it happen, and twice the free were junk in comparison. First, a pic of singer Roberto Carlos, the fair use one was recent, and the free one was a yellowed b&w pic from thirty-something years ago. Another of Steve Jobs' keynote about the Intel transition. The fair use one was fine, the free one was a blurred mess. - Stormwatch 22:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I know what you mean, I too, spent a great deal of effort cleaning up some of those logos, as well. At the time I was attending community college and had access to modern computers capable of running Photoshop at reasonable speeds. With my 7 year old IBM Thinkpad P3/128MB RAM laptop it would be a real pain to go through that again. Also the page you linked is full of inaccuracies, such as it has the AT&T logo that was changed from Bass's original design in the late 90s or early 00s, and the Exxon trademark didn't even exist in 1966. The work I did was completely accurate and with the highest quality and most accurate logos I could find. If I remember correctly, a couple I even scanned in myself. X570 03:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I removed the Quaker Oats logo image -- which was the only image in the article -- since for some reason every image of Saul's body of work: film posters, film titles and other logos are continually being removed without explanation after uploading, even with "Non-free Historic Image" rationale clearly documented per Wikipedia guidelines. My reason for removing Quaker Oats is: it was the ONLY image somehow being allowed to remain in the article, but it is not the ONLY image that should be viewed as representing the essence of Saul's work. Consequently, it seems inappropriate to include it without having critically acclaimed images representing the breadth of his work included as well. Dezignr (talk) 15:49, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

"Design Not Used"
Noticed that several movie posters listed in his bio are now labelled as "design not used" (is this referenced?) -- if that is the case, those entries need to be removed or moved to a different list rather than a "published works" type listing. As it stands now, it is inaccurate and will create confusion. --jca2112 18:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed the posters listed that claimed to be "Unused poster design" as there is no cited evidence that Bass was the creator of those items. For example, while Bass did in fact design the titles and montage dream sequence for the film Grand Prix (1966), the film poster was designed by Howard Terpning. (talk) 21:28, 2 April 2009 (UTC)) Dezignr (talk) 21:30, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Clarification of logos
I know what most of the logos are in the pic given (and chances are, so do you), but not #5 and #7. Maybe the author could list the companies the logos belong to? YellowAries2010 (talk) 04:18, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Poster Section
I edited the first paragraph of the section on Saul Bass’s film posters. I added information about directors he created posters for, and his produced, but never distributed poster for Steven Spielberg's Schindler’s List. His last film poster.

I attempted to add a foot note to this website (posted below) as a reference to support the existence of the poster (as I was afraid that someone would delete it as unverified information if there was no reference), but an editing bot prevented its inclusion, perhaps suspecting that it was spam. Can the editor of the page add it?

http://moviegoods.typepad.com/visitors_center/2008/10/schindlers-list.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.82.120.81 (talk) 08:31, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

update: I see that the paragraph I wrote has been deleted, apparently and ironically because the last part was unsourced. It was;

He created some of his best known posters for films directed by Otto Preminger, Alfred Hitchcock, Billy Wilder, and Stanley Kubrick among others. His work spanned five decades and inspired numerous other designers. He created a poster for Steven Spielberg's Schindler's List that was produced, but never distributed. This was reportedly his last commissioned film poster. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.82.120.81 (talk) 08:40, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

"Jewish-American"
Is it necessary to mention he was a "Jewish-American" in the opening sentence? It's highly irregular and I don't see it mentioned in any other WP bio page. Generally an ethnicity or religion is mentioned in the Early life/career section of an article.--Chimino (talk) 18:58, 4 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Good point. I took out the Jewish American reference in the opening sentence, and put it in the early life/career section. I added some other biographical information about the immigrant origin of his parents, using the online source that the original editor used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hulahoop122 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

being 'Ripped-off'
I'm curious - if Saul Bass felt that Art Sims ripped him off with the poster for Spike Lee's "Clockers" then what did Saul Bass say about the Pink Panther?

Here is what is stated in the Wiki article re: the Pink Panther: "The first film in the series had an animated opening sequence, created by DePatie-Freleng Enterprises and set to the theme music by Henry Mancini, which featured the Pink Panther character. This character, designed by Hawley Pratt and Friz Freleng, was subsequently the subject of its own series of animated cartoons which gained its greatest fame when aired on Saturday mornings as The Pink Panther Show."

I thought Saul Bass had done the Pink Panther opening and it had been left out of the film credits attributed to Saul Bass - until I looked it up. To me the style is the same but at the same time original. I read the quote about using the term 'homage' being the standard defense when one is accused of an intellectual property infringement. But what about a 'Style'? Has anyone ever heard Saul Bass comment about this difference and the Pink Panther in particular? JSJR 582013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.76.56.97 (talk) 07:33, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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I re-uploaded a compilation of Saul Bass logos that I created and uploaded many months ago. It was deleted by someone who thought that some of these logos might be copyright protected. At the time, I did not look into the rationale used to delete that png, but I notice now that each one of those logos has already long been used on the Wikipedia page for each one of those corporations, so the fair use of those corporate logos I believe has already been established. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hulahoop122 (talk • contribs) 05:19, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

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Very interesting article
I just read the whole thing, found it to be well-written and very engaging. I know that it's not what the Talk page is for, but I just wanted to thank everybody who worked on this. Robincantin (talk) 01:19, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

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Quest?
Phase IV is mentioned as his only feature film as director. What about Quest (1984)? Postdarwin (talk) 23:50, 17 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Never mind, just realised it's a short! Postdarwin (talk) 23:52, 17 March 2023 (UTC)