Talk:Saul Landau

Neutrality
This article seems to be overly praising its subject. There are also numerous quotes praising his work, but none that are neutral or negative, suggesting that there not a neutral point of view. As as side issue, none of the quotes have inline citations. The guidelines state that direct quotations must have an inline citation. —Joshua Scott (LiberalFascist) 22:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I think you've made some good points. I would be interested on working on this article and adding sources, citations and controversy, but I know Saul personally (in fact I'm mentioned in some of the earlier versions of this article).  Would that be a problem for me working on this article? Alden Loveshade (talk) 03:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Conflict of interest policy would apply. It's not always clear what the policy means in practice; here I'd suggest you ensure a particular emphasis on using reliable sources so that other editors can verify your statements. With so little content in the article, I wouldn't want to stop you expanding it; if other issues arise, we can address them if/when. Rd232 talk 10:54, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help. The problem I've ran into is that if I'm very familiar with a topic, I'm usually involved in it which gives me conflict of interest according to Wikipedia's policy. If the policy were followed very strictly, it could in essence ban virtually anyone who's an expert on a topic from writing about it.  Interestingly, none of the newspapers I've worked for (including a Pulitzer Prize winner) had this policy.  I remember a prominent investigative journalist once said no journalist can be objective, only fair. Alden Loveshade (talk) 20:34, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Well Wikipedia is very different from a newspaper: the credibility of a statement in the New York Times rests on a combination of the paper's reputation for editorial oversight and the author's reputation (and I totally agree about the objectivity/fairness issue). The credibility of the same statement in a Wikipedia article rests primarily on the sourcing (eg, a footnote to the New York Times) - the reader doesn't know who the author is, and can't take into account what they know about their views or what axes they're grinding etc. As for the COI policy - it's really aimed at preventing self-promotion, eg people editing their autobiographies, or articles about companies they own, or Congressional staffers editing their political masters' entries, etc. For the rest, it's good to make others aware that you have a connection to the subject, but the extent to which that connection is a problem will generally be judged on the basis of your editing, i.e. the ability to stick to policy (especially reliable sourcing and verifiability) and being able to have constructive discussion when disputes arise. Hope that's clear. Rd232 talk 10:47, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That certainly helps. Thanks. Alden Loveshade (talk) 02:11, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Edgar Award
I cant seem to find an outside source to confirm this. Lots of bio blurbs on Landau mention it, but nothing else. I will remove if it cant be cited to an outside source. ZippoHurlihee (talk) 15:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

See: Recent Frontpage Magazine Article/Obituary on Landau
This Wikipedia whitewash is a bit ridiculous. It's silly, when right-wing FrontPage Magazine is more serious in its judgement - and has more important facts on Landau than Us/Wikipedia.--93.230.5.228 (talk) 13:14, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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