Talk:Sausalito, California

Photos
The new photo of the South end of twon from Bridgeway looks good - I edited the caption to make it less POV Trapper 16:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Barkley comments
The actual exchange was:

Johnson: "How do you feel about Sausalito?"

Barkley: "Ohio?"

Johnson: "Sausalito, California. It's beautiful. It's right across the Golden Gate."

Barkley: "I've never been to Sausalito. They got a team over there?"

See http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_5791258

Trapper 18:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

That only covers about 5 seconds worth of the conversation which continued into Ernie talking about how he and his wife went on vacation in Sausalito which is where Barkley began to bash the entire Bay Area and then focused on Sausalito due to Ernie's love for it. Your right that exchange of words did happen, but thats no where near all that was said.


 * Please sign your comments (use four ~'s).  Assuming you are right (and without a citation that's a question) I still don't see why the negative comments is worthy of the page and the positive ones are not?   In the end it's a has-been sports personality trying to rile up another sports personality and it has zero to do with Sausalito.   If we added every positive and negative comment about a city from TV to each city it would dwarf the legitimate content.   Absent a valid reason for the quote being included I'm going to remove it again.   Please provide a justification as to why it's noteworthy for an encyclopedia before adding it back. Trapper 08:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Houseboats
The new paragraph on houseboats seems very POV and doesn't cite any sources. It's also inaccurate (Gate 6 is not in Sausalito). Absent somebody fixing it I'm going to delete it. Trapper 03:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I did major surgery on the paragraph to remove POV, correct the Gate 6 error and added a reference. Trapper 20:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Is this paragraph relevant any longer? Stwiso (talk) 20:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * When Sausalito was formally platted, it was anticipated that future development might extend the shoreline with landfill, as had been the practice in neighboring San Francisco. As a result entire streets, demarcated and given names like Pescadero, Eureka and Teutonia, remain beneath the surface of Richardson Bay. [2] The legal, if not actual, presence of these streets has proved a contentious factor in public policy, due to the fact that some houseboats float directly above them. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, "State agencies say privately owned houseboats can't be located above the underwater streets because the streets are public trust lands intended for public benefit." The California State Lands Commission is reportedly pursuing a compromise which would move not the houseboats, but the theoretical streets instead.[3]

Yes, it is. The issue is still wending its way through the state bureaucracy. -- P L E A T H E R talk 22:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * thanks, I could not find anything on the internet about its current status, so I thought I'd ask the question.Stwiso (talk) 22:24, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Does the whole music section really belong?
I'm struggling to see how the fact that some songs were written about a place is worthy of an encyclopedia. Other cities for example New York and San Francisco don't have similar section and they have many more songs written about them or recorded within the city limits. Does anybody have a good reason to keep the section? Trapper (talk) 19:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I can appreciate your evaluating this issue, but I think the answer is a resounding yes: this is relevant to the town's reputation, and therefore worthy of inclusion.

In the case of big cities like San Francisco and New York not having music sections, I think that's more a factor of them having a great many other claims to fame.

In contrast, the first introduction many people have had to Sausalito is through the several popular songs that have been written about it. For some reason it's captured the imagination of many musicians as an archetype as an idyllic waterfront town, and it's worthwhile to point out that THIS is the "Sausalito" referred to in popular imagination. -- P L E A T H E R talk 21:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I lived in Sausalito for 10 years. Wherever I went in the world, the two questions I alway receved were about houseboats and the music scene, not just the songs, but the recording studio. If I were a novice regarding Sausalito I would want Wikpedia to tell me something about these topics.Stwiso (talk) 22:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * OK so I'll buy that's it's relevant - but is a list of songs and artists really what we need rather than a narrative talking about the history? Trapper (talk) 17:51, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Who says it has to be "rather than" a narrative? No reason we can't have both. Also, take a look at that list of songs again. If you can find another small town (7,000 residents) that has inspired so many major-label releases, I'd like to hear about it. -- P L E A T H E R talk 18:53, 22 October 2008 (UTC)