Talk:Save Romania Union

Orphaned references in Save Romania Union
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Save Romania Union's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "auto": From Unification of Romania and Moldova:  From USR PLUS:  From Free Democratic Party (Germany):  From Liberal Democrats (UK):  From Finland:  From Common Security and Defence Policy:  From Slovenia:  From Kaja Kallas: </li> <li>From Council of the European Union: </li> <li>From LGBT rights in Romania: </li> <li>From Czech Republic: </li> <li>From Emmanuel Macron: </li> <li>From 2009 Romanian presidential election: </li> <li>From Hungary: </li> <li>From Fredrick Federley: </li> <li>From Azerbaijan: The State Statistical Committee of the Azerbaijan Republic, The ethnic composition of the population according to the 2009 census. azstat.org</li> <li>From Norway: </li> <li>From Italy: </li> <li>From Andrej Babiš: </li> <li>From Germany: </li> <li>From 2019 Romanian presidential election: </li> <li>From List of Marjan Šarec: </li> <li>From Liberalism: .</li> <li>From Lithuania: </li> <li>From Citizens (Spanish political party): </li> <li>From Willy De Clercq: Etat présent de la noblesse belge 2015, p. 62</li> <li>From Armenia: </li> <li>From European Conservatives and Reformists: </li> <li>From Ukraine: </li> <li>From Poland: </li> <li>From Foreign relations of Romania: </li> <li>From European Union: </li> <li>From UNESCO: </li> <li>From Romanian Nationhood Party: </li> <li>From People's Party for Freedom and Democracy: </li> <li>From Iceland: </li> <li>From Same-sex marriage: </li> <li>From Liberal Initiative (Portugal): </li> <li>From 2017–2019 Romanian protests: </li> <li>From Portugal: </li> <li>From Spain: </li> </ul>

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 21:15, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Ideology
USR is (or at least it pretends to be) progressive and anti-corruption. Why remove these from ideology? There are also references RAMSES$44932 (talk) 14:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Still centrist, liberal and progressive?
The party has formed an electoral alliance called "The Right-wing Pole" recently. Is it still accurate that "centre/centrism", "liberalism" and "progressivism" are included in the infobox and on the page or has the party shifted since and as such would removal of these be appropriate? I have opened this rfc because previous talk page sections on this talk page have not received any responses from other editors. Helper201 (talk) 10:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Does this satisfy RFCBEFORE? <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 13:32, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Not as far as I can see. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 19:48, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

I explained in my edit summary that this was not done because previous talk page entries on this page show that no editors have been responding to any talk page topics on this page. Helper201 (talk) 13:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * RFCBEFORE includes asking Wikiprojects.I don’t know any rationales or arguments, how am I supposed to voice my opinion? <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 14:13, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Unless a person has watchlisted the page where the RfC is being held, a person arriving at an RfC - whether because of a central notice, article alerts, feedback request service or from WP:RFC/A - sees the RfC as it presently stands, and they certainly won't see any edit summaries. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 22:57, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I've now updated the rfc to explain why I opened it. Helper201 (talk) 15:58, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Still, what are the rationales for choosing either side? I know nothing about Romania. <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 16:03, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, broadly speaking liberalism in Europe is usually consistent with centrism and progressivism with the political left. The party has formed what has been called the "United Right Alliance" with the People's Movement Party and the Force of the Right, two parties on the right of the political spectrum. An alliance explicitly stating it’s of the political right with two other parties both on the right may indicate that Save Romania Union itself has shifted in its political position to the right. As a political party of the centre who is liberal and progressive forming an alliance explicitly saying its "Right" with two other parties on the right would make it a strange outlier if it maintained centrist, liberal and/or progressive stances. So, this may point to a change i.e. that the sources are now outdated. We have sources calling Save Romania Union centrist, liberal and progressive on this page (it would seem, as these are cited in the infobox, though I haven't properly looked into these citations) but these citations all appear to be from 2020 at the latest and prior to then. So, the question is whether anyone can provide sources that indicate the party has shifted to the right, away from the centre and/or away from liberalism and/or progressivism. As I cannot read or speak Romanian my capacity to find sources in this matter is limited. Helper201 (talk) 16:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I've just found this source: Romanian right-wing parties to run on joint EU election list from today that calls the Save Romania Union (USR) "right-wing". Helper201 (talk) 16:43, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Unless we can find some recent sources that explicitly name this party's ideology (not just these that call it right-wing), I think we should stay the status quo. Just one is not enough. <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 23:38, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Secularist
Any political party which does not support state religion is secularist by definition. Even Trump's GOP is secularist by the definition just given. tgeorgescu (talk) 16:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)