Talk:Savile Row/Archive 3

New article Savile Row tailoring?
Question for the 56 watchers of this article. There is a lot of material in this article, and plenty more available in reliable sources. What are thoughts on creating a standalone article Savile Row tailoring, which would be just about the history and development of Savile Row bespoke tailoring, and the tailors on the street. At the moment this article is trying to tell the story of Savile Row, the main part of which is the tailoring, but which also has other aspects, and I wonder if the tailoring dominates just too much.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  16:07, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've created it. I'm working now on tidying up the Tailoring section of this article - identifying the significant tailors in the history of Savile Row, and also on developing the Architecture section.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  22:00, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Infobox
Infoboxes are not mandatory - see Manual_of_Style_(infoboxes). When there is a disagreement about their use, contributors are advised to reach a consensus through discussion. I don't think that the infobox is adding anything of value to the article, as the information it mentions is already mentioned in the lead, and the box is not as visually attractive as simply using an image. I think the compromise on visual appearance for a modest amount of trivial information, which is already contained in the lead, is not worth it.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  15:18, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * An IP recently put coordinates in the infobox. Putting coordinates in the infobox merely duplicates the coordinates in the article, and this triggers an alert that coordinates should not be duplicated. This is part of the problem with such an infobox. All the information in the box is already contained within the article.  Using an infobox to duplicate some trivial material creates clutter and also puts an inappropriate emphasis on that information. I have moved the box further down the lead in line with the spirit of WP:Lead, and in doing so I removed the image to put that back as the lead image at the top of the article to visually identify the topic per WP:LEADIMAGE. Unless there is an appropriate reason for using the infobox in this article I think it should be removed. I will leave this discussion open for a little longer.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  14:39, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Tailoring clients
There is a claim in the opening summary that Ian Fleming purchased suits from Savile Row and that having dressed his character in the same suits, the trend continues with Daniel Craig as Bond. This is a jumbled confusion. It is already well-known that Fleming didn't shop for his clothes on Savile Row and neither did the producers of the films. Current James Bond suits are also not Savile Row creations. The footnote purporting to support the claims contains one line (unverified) mentioning that Daniel Craig has patronised the tailors there.

If this article gets cleaned up and/or a separate entry is created for Savile Row tailoring, this sort of thing is going to have to be avoided.Marcvanderloo (talk) 21:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Well spotted. Both articles have now been amended.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  11:51, 6 March 2013 (UTC)