Talk:Savoy Hotel/Archives/2013

Old comments
Art Deco in 1889. Surely not? 80.46.38.197 13:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Exclusively Edwardian in 1889 until 1900, when the first extension was built in the Art deco style and then other areas were refurbished in Art Deco, or kept in the Edwardian style. Hence it is currently a mish mash of different styles. 80.72.157.154 (talk) 14:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

It would have been Victorian in 1889 till 1900. Edward was not King till 1900. 68.71.8.103 (talk) 17:50, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:FOOD Tagging
This article talk page was automatically added with WikiProject Food and drink banner as it falls under Category:Restaurants or one of its subcategories. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. You can find the related request for tagging here -- TinucherianBot (talk) 11:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC) Edwardian pre 1900? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.19.218 (talk) 13:31, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Large two-funnel ship nearby?
Looking at the satelite image of the hotel, there's a large 2-funnel ship docked nearby, close to the hotel. Its not AT the Savoy Pier, but the next pier to the east. Even if its not connected to the hotel, its sitting right in front of it. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? --24.21.149.124 (talk) 05:50, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * .... update. Its the Queen Mary. Not the most well-known ocean liner, but the smaller yacht. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.149.124 (talk) 06:41, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

History
Very nice job on all the new history. I think the two history sections should be combined, as they now cover parallel time periods. Rees11 (talk) 01:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I see you went ahead and did this. Good job.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:45, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but you did all the hard work. I see we had some overlaps today, hope I didn't mess you up. Rees11 (talk) 03:54, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


 * We're making progress. There is more info to be mined at the official site, but I'm in no hurry.  Eventually we'll get the whole article up to snuff.  All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

ELs
When I click on the "The new Savoy Hotel website describing the renovated hotel" link, I get a redirect to http://www.the-savoy.com/, which has no content other than a Flash object. This would not normally be acceptable per WP:ELNO. Are you getting something different? Rees11 (talk) 14:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Let it load, then "Click to continue", and it opens up to give substantial information about the hotel that is not included in the other site. Should we instead put in the url: http://www.the-savoy.com?  Note that ELNO says that flash sites should usually be avoided "Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject", which this is.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:38, 13 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll let you decide, since I can't see the content. Rees11 (talk) 17:46, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Savoy Court
This is not the only stretch of road in the UK where traffic has to drive on the right. Worthing Borough Council remodelled part of Station Approach between Worthing station and a multi-storey car park. There is a narrow central reservation, but it is still essentially one road, although it's mapped as two independent one-way streets. The taxi rank, as a result, is now out in the open rather than under the canopy, and in order to get into a taxi passengers have to step out into the path of oncoming traffic. Radski (talk) 08:46, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Please supply a WP:Reliable source for this information. -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

External links vs. references
The external links are labeled references, and the references used in the article are labeled "notes". Is there a reason for this? A bunch of external links can't be references since they aren't referring to any particular fact in the article. There are no notes within the references either. A note being some additional information moved to the end of the article but of use to the reader. Can I change the headings to the proper Wikipedia MoS names? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 05:59, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


 * No, please do not. First, I disagree with your description.  All of the "Notes" are in-line footnotes that DO refer to specific facts in the article, not simply ELs.  The "References" is a list of the sources used in the article.  The system of headings used for notes, references and ELs in this article is both permitted by WP:MOS and common in Wikipedia and consistent throughout the G&S project's 450 articles.  It was originally created based on our review of this guideline and FA-class articles on Wikipedia.  See, for an example of an FA article using the same system, H.M.S. Pinafore.  Note that the FA reviewers check articles carefully for consistency with the MOS.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:34, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Competitive salaries?
Does anyone know what it means where the article says, "He also introduced competitive salaries for the staff", speaking of the management, post war? Does competitive mean that staff salaries were raised, or cut? Cheers,  Wik idea  18:50, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

American Bar Not Introducing Cocktails
Hello, The American Bar may have been the first to introduce cocktails, but it couldn't have been in 1898. The Empire Theatre of Varieties was serving them as early as 1889. This is from Joseph Donohue's Fantasies of Empire: The Empire Theatre of Varieties and the Licensing Controversy of 1894 published in 2005 by U of Iowa Press. "handing them a tastefully printed menu similar to the one inserted in an Empire program for 4 February 1889, a small folio advertising the "American Bar" and listing the "Principal American Drinks." " p. 44 It then goes on to list cocktails such as Champagne Cocktail, Corpse Reviver, Empire Reviver. Ect. Anyway, my point being that either the date in the article is wrong, or the Savoy didn't introduce cocktails. I'm inclined to believe it's the date, because of the mention of the "American Bar" in the 1889 program. His source is from London County Council meeting minutes. Thanks, Robert. Doctorswimmer (talk) 18:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Robert. I removed the date. Any chance that you can look into this further and find a definitive source to cite for when the bar opened and if confirming that it was really first in Europe? All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:32, 6 February 2011 (UTC)