Talk:Saw V/Archive 1

"Saw V Plotline and Plot Released?"
it is true i saw the movie last night very bloody more so than others This may contain SPOILERS so BEWARE. This should also be takin as a rumor.

Plot Line: "An investigative journalist stumbles into Jigsaw's game while on assignment."

Plot: "Almost every one brought in to try and solve the Jigsaw mystery has died or been injured. With Johns dead body in the hospital, Officer Rigg badly injured still in the wharehouse, Agent Perez recovering in the hospital and Agent Straum no where to be found there leaves one. Upon hearing the news that Jigsaws games will continue from his death Detective Hoffman has disappeared and a whole new game is just about to start."

This source is from SAW V AT IMDBFusion2508 (talk) 07:06, 16 December 2007 (UTC)Fusion2508
 * Probably bullshit and just as valid than when it said Saw IV's plot consisted of Jeff playing games to free Corbett.--CyberGhostface (talk) 15:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, because any member of IMDb, just like on Wikipedia, can add the plot details to IMDb, therefore, it has no credibility. -- Victor  (talk)  21:34, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Notice how Agent Strahm's name, along with "warehouse", is misspelled? Of course it's fake... especially with that tagline. Jack Of Hearts | Miss A Turn 04:18, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

A video has recently surfaced on YouTube from a user claiming to have the first 4 pages of the saw 5 script. I'm not in to movie scripts, so I can't tell if it's real or not, but the link to the video is http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a-wRm9tKgwE&feature=related along with links to the pages in the description. Maybe someone can comfirm or debunk this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samyueru (talk • contribs) 14:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the name probably is 'Straum'. That's what it says on the Saw 4 and 5 fact sheets on Lionsgate Publicity.
 *  ViperBlade   Talk!! 09:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the IMDb thing is fake. As for the supposed five pages of the script, i'm not positive, but I think lionsgate denied it so I wouldn't take it seriously. GroundZ3R0 002 (talk) 07:16, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

UPDATE FOR SAW V RELEASE FROM LIONSGATE
As 'Squishy Vic' said, I already sourced that (though i didn't know how to add it with tags.
 *  ViperBlade   Talk!! 21:00, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

SAW V is coming out OCTOBER 24, 2008. For the proof go here Lionsgate Publicity I hope this solves the release date confusion. Lionsgate said they will release the next Saw next October said here As of December 5th,2007 Fusion2508 (talk) 07:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)Fusion2508

We already had that source. Thanks anyway. -- Victor  (talk)  21:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

officialsaw.com states that Saw 5 is to begin shooting on March 17 in Toronto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.183.215.115 (talk) 14:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Conflicting Release Date
In the article there is a release Date Conflict. Which one is going to go into the article?

"The film is set to be released on October 24, 2008, following the tradition of the Saw films, being released the Friday before Halloween." 'Lionsgate Publicity lists Saw V for October 24, 2008'

Or

"It is also rumored that Saw V and Saw VI will be shot back to back. If this is the case, 2008 might be the first year without a Saw film, and instead they will be released in the following years." ''Saw V' & 'Saw VI' Shooting Back-to-Back, Year Off?'
 * --҉ რ&#xF755;ɫՒ◌§ 9¤ ॐ 01:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

The official release date is currently October 24, 2008. The producers and such are also debating whether or not to release the film on Halloween, since Halloween takes place on a Friday in 2008. The reason that the last line about "shooting back to back" was added into the article was because it is a possibility the film (Saw V) is not released/completed in 2008 and instead released in 2009, and Saw VI in 2010, as the source implies. -- Victor  (talk)  05:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Samantha Lemole joins the cast, please add
www.officialsaw.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.62.72.17 (talk) 09:37, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Scott Patterson
I think the text, in the sequel section, referring to whether or not Scott Patterson will appear in Saw 5 and Saw 6 can be deleted. It is no longer relevant because 1) doubt of his appearance was a matter PRIOR TO his confirmed appearance in Saw 5, and 2) the television show he is in, Aliens in America, has been cancelled.131.183.212.228 (talk) 18:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)TGM

Conflicting information
This paragraph contains a huge self-contradiction about the director of Saw VI:


 * It was confirmed through multiple sources that David Hackl, the production designer for Saw II, Saw III and Saw IV and second unit director for Saw III and Saw IV has officially been announced to direct both Saw V and Saw VI. Saw VI will be directed by Kevin Greutert, the editor on all the Saw films to date.

So, who will direct the distant Saw VI? David Hackl or Kevin Greutert? Powerslave (talk|cont.) 03:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I was kind of wondering about that one myself. I had to go back and read the paragraph over again to make sure I didn't read it wrong the first time. Very odd. Jigsaw 541 (talk) 01:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)Jigsaw 541


 * Neither have been fully confirmed or denied, both names are just as likely, so I wouldn't add a director for Saw VI. GroundZ3R0 002 (talk) 07:19, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Potentially fatal trap?
I don't think this has any room on the page, this clearly is a publicity stunt. How bad does your career have to be that you'd risk your life for a single scene in a B movie? I don't buy it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loncaros (talk • contribs) 22:03, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Of course it was a publicity stunt, but I'm sure they meant if something happened like slipped or whatever, not a seriously fatal trap. GroundZ3R0 002 (talk) 07:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Aren't you the king of obvious? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.193.179.4 (talk) 09:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, it goes without saying that it's dangerous to lock your head in a box filled with water, but I'm sure no real threat was posed to that man's life. The back wall was probably removable in the event of a near drowning. Powerslave (talk|cont.) 01:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Teaser Posted Already
Cant use Youtube as a cited source so Ill post it o here till the Official site brings it up.


 * Official Teaser --҉ რ&#xF755;ɫՒ◌§ 9¤ ॐ 04:13, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

New Production designer
For the fifth instalment a new production designer Martin Farrell was from Scotland was hired. The crew were slightly bemused at this appointment but Farrell impressed new director David Hackl so much with his dedication and ideas he has already been signed for Saw VI
 * Can you confirm this? --JpGrB 00:12, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Issues.
Now, I must first state that I have no doubt that Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan wrote the script. And I believe I even read somewhere that they pitched the three movies (IV, V, VI). But the statement as it stands now "Saw V was written by Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan, is referenced by IMDb, and I'm fairly certain the Wikipedia has established many times over that IMDb is not a reliable source. I will try to find the article I mentioned that I had read about them pitching the three, but I also believe that this should be taken out as a source.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 08:52, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I have taken care of the issue above. I found the interviews on the Saw IV page, but while I was looking through, I believe I noticed things that were in that article that were not in this article, once again, I could be mistaken, but this seems very odd to me.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 09:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I have tried to clean up the entire page a little. --HELLØ    ŦHERE 09:07, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

The Jigsaw shaped piece of flesh?
It says that we will find out what that is about in the 5th film but didnt we find out in saw 2? He said that he took it because his subjects were "missing an important piece of the human puzzle, the survival instinct" or something to that effect. That seems a bit strange to me. --Will Decay (talk) 23:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It will probably be expanded on more...like how Jigsaw started doing it.--CyberGhostface (talk) 02:05, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Yea, he did it with a knife. Lol. Mystery solved. &#91;&#91;User:SonicNiGHT&#124;SonicNiGHT&#93;&#93; (talk) 08:21, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * BloodyDisgusting.com recently released a picture showing Tobin Bell on his knees, dressed like in Saw 2, he's probably cutting the Jigsaw piece off from Michael's back. (bear trap)Nico92400 (talk) 08:57, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

V.
I put a "citation needed" template by the statement that says it's referred to as "V". It was removed stating that it's unprovable, yet on the new poster we have it's "Saw V", not just "V", I believe this is a source showing that it's not "V". Can someone help? --HELLØ   ŦHERE 20:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

It's refered to as V on the teaser poster and the Offical Website

LOTS of new pictures
I think it's time for overanalysis once again. What information can be extracted from the pics in this slideshow and added to the artice? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yUUveJo9I2M
 *  ViperBlade   Talk!! 16:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

SonicNiGHT here, I'm too lazy to sign in, lol. In that new poster for the movie, doesn't it look like there's 2 rats in the box eating his face or something? 74.76.96.112 (talk) 22:00, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * no there 's 2 hoses through the top of the box Nico92400 (talk) 08:18, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah. Well they still show rats in the trailer, lol. Now that I took a look at it, his box seems to be filling with water later on in the trailer. &#91;&#91;User:SonicNiGHT&#124;SonicNiGHT&#93;&#93; (talk) 08:20, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Water? I'll check, that'd be interesting. Has anyone else seen this? GroundZ3R0 002 (talk) 07:24, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Has Anyone Else Noticed That Strahm has a wedding ring on in the new poster??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by IceT13TSOSIM (talk • contribs) 00:00, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Why cant i edit?
Why oh why?? Cant wait to see V!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Youpi-youpi (talk • contribs) 03:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

because you voted for bush. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.180.75.171 (talk) 06:40, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

New Poster
For the recently added poster with Saw V and a picture of Strahm's trap on the bottom, there are words at the top, can anyone tell what they are? GroundZ3R0 002 (talk) 07:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

"you Won't Believe how it ends"(talk)

Wedding Ring
Strahm is wearing one in the new poster

did anyone know he was married? —Preceding unsigned comment added by IceT13TSOSIM (talk • contribs) 19:18, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No, but he is also wearing one in Saw IV, but his wife's identity is unknown. GroundZ3R0 002 (talk) 02:04, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Strahms Trap
Just to clear things up:


 * Yes, Strahm is wearing a wedding ring (he also did in IV), though his wife's identity is unknown and it's unsure if we'll ever hear about her.


 * While the poster makes it unclear and the page says it's confirmed, there is nothing to say the trap fills with water (although it'd make a lot of sense/suspense) or has rats in it. The reference that was given says nothing about either. The teaser trailer shows a clear view of the box and there is no rats or water. This could change though.


 * Yes, there are tubes on each side of Strahm. Whether these deposit poison, control air, or other functions is unconfirmed.


 * Judging from the trailer, the box on his head can be moved around (this may help in his trap or something).


 * The trap takes place in an erntirely new place, not the bathroom or anywhere else familiar.

Glad to help, GroundZ3R0 002 (talk) 02:15, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I Have A Pic Of Strahm With Water inside The Box With Him, But I Don't Know How To Upload Photos

I Can Show if You Tell me How Or Tell me Where To Send It To You —Preceding unsigned comment added by IceT13TSOSIM (talk • contribs) 03:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Opening sequence description
editsemiprotected Please change the opening sequence description from this:

At the 2008 Comic-con, along with the teaser trailer, a clip of the film's opening sequence was shown. However, unlike the teaser, the clip did not appear online for the time being. However, on September 17, 2008, the clip was finally revealed via website. The opening sequence introduces a new character named Seth, who was serving a life sentence for murdering people but got off after five years due to a "technicality". He is placed in a pendulum trap that begins swinging at 30 seconds, and at the end of 60 seconds will cut him in half. In order to stop the device, Seth has to put his hands in two devices and push the buttons before him, which will "render of the tools that kills: your hands". Seth partly accomplishes this task. It destroys his hands, but the pendulum keeps going. The clock is on the 50 second hand as the clip ends and the title card is revealed, his fate was left unknown.[21]

to this:

A clip of the opening sequence was shown at Comic-Con 2008 and added to the film's official website on September 17, 2008. A man named Seth awakens to find himself chained to a table, looking up at a razor-edged pendulum on the ceiling. A videotaped messge from Billy reveals that Seth had been sentenced to life in prison for murder, but was released on a technicality after five years. The pendulum descends toward him as it begins to swing; after 30 seconds it will be close enough to touch his skin, and after 60 seconds it will cut him in half. Seth is told that in order to save himself, he must "destroy the tools that have killed — your hands" by inserting them into two presses and pushing the starter buttons inside. He does so, the presses crushing his hands, but the pendulum continues its descent. The clip ends at the 50-second mark when the title card comes up; Seth's fate is left unrevealed at this time.[21]
 * ✅--Aervanath lives in  the Orphanage  15:27, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Plese change "tools that have killed" to "things that have killed" and "videotaped messge" to "videotaped message". 71.75.251.195 (talk) 04:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you have a source for that first change? Mind you i have not seen the movie 211.30.12.197 (talk) 09:41, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ The clip is available all over the internet. Having checked it, it is indeed "things". ~ mazca  t 10:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Section.
I've noticed some of the information that was deleted doesn't necessarily fit where it was, but should we possibly create a "build-up" or "anticipation" section, which details the fact that the clip was released at Comic-Con, the website opening, etc. I think some may find it interesting and it does detail the anticipation/build-up of the movie. I hope I've made myself clear in what I'm trying to possibly create. --HELLØ   ŦHERE 23:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Ride
Thorpe park anyone? 82.22.17.157 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 08:18, 14 October 2008 (UTC).

hoffmans test
a new clip for saw 5 has been released,(in a flash back) shows that hoffman wanted seth to die. hoffman says that seth didnt deserve a chance. jigsaw tells him that everybody has a chance and forces a device onto hoffmans finger which looks like hoffman has to cut his own finger off. this means that seths trap happens before saw3/4 or maybe even 1 and 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Centuryrock667 (talk • contribs) 22:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

That's the trigger of the shotgun that's strapped to Hoffman, actually.86.41.36.249 (talk) 14:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Story telling article
This article basically tells the whole movie.... That is not what a Wikipedia article is. Someone needs to shorten that to a snapshot and give details about casting, where it was filmed, etc. Encyclopedic content. Wjmummert (KA-BOOOOM!!!!) 02:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

We Do that for all saw films Just so we have every detail down for the future sequel —Preceding unsigned comment added by IceT13TSOSIM (talk • contribs) 04:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Wrong Plot Details
This is a minor error but "The recording warns him he can find salvation or die in the room, and urges him to make the right choice." is an INCORRECT summary detail...The recording actually warns him to either go into an unknown fate or stay in the room and live but he refuses to stay in the room with the deceased Jigsaw and then faces turmoil... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catlady04 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Wrong Plot Details
When Hoffman is put into the box, it is full of ice cubes (i don't remember ever seeing shards of glass in the shape of an ice cube.) Also when he breathes on it, you can see his breath and it says there, unlike if its warm inside of the box, it would go away. Alesana1194 (talk) 03:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

terrible writing

 * to a empty hospital bed
 * gets worried that the fact that he may be in danger.
 * Charles steps in his hand and takes it.
 * The trio enter the shelter and leave Charles to die by the explosion. Luba, Mallick, and Brit make it to their next test. In this test, they have to find a way for a cord of electricity

what the hell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.72.226 (talk) 05:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Change needed please
The text "He heads back to his office and finds a note for him saying "I know who you are." should be moved.  It has this text after Detective Hoffman enters Strahm's room where he is grieving.  This actually happened before he went to the hospital room. I just got home from seeing the movie and noticed it.  It is really a minor change but think it should be made for accuracy.