Talk:Scholastic wrestling

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"Collegiate," "Folkstyle" and "Scholastic" all refer to the same style and should be on the same page. The Collegiate wrestling page has more links-to and contains much of the same information. This should be pared down to a redirect. Mytildebang 22:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I redirected this today. Ordinarily I'd do an information dump, but there was no information here that wasn't already in Collegiate wrestling. The history has all of the text, of course. Mytildebang 01:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Is this article too specific?
Is it just me, or are there some technical issues brought up in this article that seem to be written in a state specific manner? eg:

Dual meets usually take place on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday evenings (or Saturday mornings or afternoons)

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 * I've been editing this article for months now, and this was what I would assume after reading the wrestling team schedules of several high schools and colleges. Are there dual meets that take place on Mondays in high schools? If so, please edit. Wikiman86 (talk) 18:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

''The wrestler-captain who won the disk toss may choose the even or odd weight classes. That is, he may choose the weight classes, from lowest to highest, that are numbered evenly or oddly (e.g. 103, 119, 130, etc. being odd or 112, 125, 135, etc. being even)''

I thought that the starting weight was randomly selected, with the first weight denoting the start of the count for the "odd" weights (could be wrong here .... but I think this is done in some states).


 * You're right. I copied most of the information in this article from the Collegiate wrestling article, assuming that the way the college wrestlers compete would work the same way for high school. By and large, it is pretty much the same, but on this point, I was wrong to assume that the 103, 119, 130 etc. would automatically would be odd and the 112, 125, and 135, etc. would be even. The first match drawn would be odd (Rule 6-2-2 of the NFHS Wrestling Rules Book). I corrected the appropriate sections. Wikiman86 (talk) 18:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

1. The top junior varsity wrestler of each school compete against each other in an order determined by the random draw.

There seems to be no mention of freshmen ..... are there simply no states that have a third category? I know at least a few states do.


 * I had mentioned freshmen only briefly. Some states may only have Junior Varsity and Varsity teams. Having Freshmen teams is arguably a relatively new phenomenon; I know my state (Illinois) has them though I think. But I did add at what time during the dual meet any freshmen matches would occur. Wikiman86 (talk) 18:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Varsity matches are usually longer than junior varsity and freshmen matches. In thirteen years of experience in high school wrestling, I am unfamiliar with this. I am only familiar with exhibition matches being shortened, or consolation matches in tournaments being shortened.


 * I had left this information in when I edited the article. It was there before I started editing, but when I went to see JV and Freshmen matches, they were usually the same time as the varsity ones. But it might be different in some states. Wikiman86 (talk) 18:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't mean to disparage the article .... for the most part it is well written. I am fully aware that states have their own rules ... but either my state is highly unique, or this article is written from a particular point of view in need of being widened .... I would like to hear some thoughts on this before make any corrections (assuming they are even needed). LonelyBeacon (talk) 18:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your suggestions and corrections. But please remember to sign your name with four tildes. Wikiman86 (talk) 18:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I hate it when I forget to sign! My apologies.  I did not want to make any edits here because I was concerned that I could be the one coming from a unique viewpoint.  I have some knowledge about how wrestling meets/tournaements work, but not the "grander" scheme of things.  I wanted to just pose some thoughts here and see what materialized.  I was concerned about making any edits that would be too much of a POV.  I see I was smart to not edit, and to wait.  I think the article is really quie well done, and you should be proud of your work! LonelyBeacon (talk) 18:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

In South Carolina we don't have Freshman matches. Some schools have a middle school team that's sanctioned by the AAU. Then the high school duals are divided by JV and Varsity. Everybody in each weight has "wrestle-offs" to determine who is the Varsity wrestler in that weight class, regardless of what grade they're in.

Kfn8r (talk) 01:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Unhealthy Weight Loss Section
This section is incredibly biased and it looks like it was just copied from its source. I'm new to Wikipedia but I'm not familiar with many terms, but this section was written by a point of view intending to make the sport look bad. I hope somebody edits this section to make it more Wiki-friendly or removes it all together or I'll fix it.

EDIT: Already made changes.

Kfn8r (talk) 21:22, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Girls in high school wrestling
I have been able to find almost nothing on Wikipedia about girls in high school wrestling. It would be nice to have a section in this article about it (or conceivably a separate article if there is enough to say). Information would include: history (when and in what state were girls first allowed onto boys' teams, and arguments pro and con; how many states permit it now; have there been boycotts of girl wrestlers (prior to the forfeit that occurred this month); what states if any have all-girls teams; etc. All I could find on Wikipedia are the stub USGWA; St. Francis Xavier Secondary School (Mississauga); and Caprock High School.  Duoduoduo (talk) 19:34, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

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