Talk:School bell

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Is there any truth to the story that the modern school bell system was developed to train kids into becoming factory workers? Kingturtle (talk) 12:30, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 10 July 2015

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The result of the proposal was move to School bell per discussion.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:33, 18 July 2015 you are stupid (UTC)

Bell (school) → School bell – Natural disambiguation is preferable to parenthetical disambiguation. The phrase "school bell" is already used in the article. 209.211.131.181 (talk) 17:47, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:NATURAL. RGloucester  — ☎ 21:09, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Support wP:NATURALDAB -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 05:11, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Support. Yep. WP:NATURALDIS, and it's common sense too. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:00, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:41, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Egsan Bacon (talk) 13:15, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Article in a Dire State
State of the article when I first looked at it earlier today was quite poor, have added appropriate tags to highlight issues, and already started a small part of the cleanup myself (removing an unsourced and largely speculative section about school bell "pranks" that might be or might have been played.

There also seems to be a fight going on in the edit history about what the school bell actually means, quite possibly instigated by teenagers wanting to get one over on their teachers saying "I dismiss you not the bell" by saying "actually, wikipedia says it's the bell so there". Amusing, but probably not the best fit for wikipedia

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Not wanting to overload the "missing information" tag with too much fluff, I thought it might be useful to get the ball rolling on the talk page. Here are a few of the questions a good version of this article might answer about school bells:

Which countries use bells and which do not? (I'm not saying there should be a list, but perhaps some expansion on a few illustrative examples of practices in different countries. Some European countries don't commonly use school bells for instance; has this always been the case, or were they once used and later abandoned? If so, when and why? If not, were they ever suggested, and if not taken up, why not?

When and where were they introduced, and why?  Is the practice of marking the end of classes with a bell older or more recent than simply having a clock in every classroom / expecting teachers to use a watch? Pure speculation here: does it go back to a time when clocks were expensive pieces of machinery and so unlikely to be found inside each classroom? Is there some relationship with factories and the industrial revolution as suggested by Kingturtle below in 2009?

What is the history of School Bell usage in anglosphere countries specifically? ''In the USA and UK, bells are commonly used to mark the beginnings and ends of classes. How long has this been the case? Were there bells commonly in use before electrified systems, how common was this?''

--Tomatoswoop (talk) 23:55, 15 October 2020 (UTC)